Veronica Mars eats brains, has visions, solves crimes: an iZombie thread

Tbh, I loved the first two seasons but the storylines had grown so convoluted (at least for me) in s3 that I struggled to even keep it all straight by the time s4e1 came around. I did rewatch a lot of s1 recently and remembered how much I liked it, though.

S4 started fairly weakly imo but picked up well a few episodes in. Not sure there will be a season 5.

Yeah, it wasn’t great, it really picked up again. I still love it.

I started watching this and realized I have no clue how season 3 ended and current zombie status of everyone.

Basically

I do love the cast though.

yeah we had to struggle to remember who was zombie and who wasn't, the whole switching people's status back and forth with the vaccine thing in S2/S3 didn't help

this season wound up GREAT. It got renewed for its last season too. Excited to see things get wound up - feel like that'll help with loose ends.

There's an incredibly beautiful episode early in season 3.

Does anyone have any idea which episode I was talking about here?

Also, yay! Didn't expect season 4 to reach Netflix so quickly.

I'm still not totally clear on what's going on with all the storylines and who's a zombie but Liv being a hockey goon with an April Wine soundtrack = I'm still on board for now.

I just re-read the episodes summaries from season three to clear up what the zombie status of everyone. I must have missed Ravi only being a zombie a couple of days out of the month.

IIRC he decided to test his zombie vax on himself right at the end of season 3.

The first two episodes have been dud. :\

It is quite similar to X Files, in that the more it focuses on a central narrative arc the less interesting it is, but it gets dopey and fun again quite quickly.

**SPOILERS**

Reading the episode summaries exhausts me tbh (and, actually, I'd seen the first four eps of s4 when Netflix Canada had them up a while ago so it all blended together). Is Wikipedia or the iZombie wiki better? I try both. If I'm following: Ravi wanted to test his most recent zombie vaccine and asked Liv to scratch him, which results in him becoming zombie-like for brief periods. Liv had scratched Major in s1 or s2, then he was treated with an earlier version of the zombie cure, which caused the side effect of temporary amnesia and also only worked temporarily. This was also applied to Blaine. Was there a version of the cure in between those two? Now we have New Seattle, which is a walled all-zombie enclave run as a military dictatorship by the Fillmore-Graves corporation, and regular Seattle, which is still human-dominated, and run as a quasi-democracy. Fillmore-Graves is also responsible for feeding these zombies, with rations that are increasingly strained - and I don't exactly recall where these are coming from. But there are anti-zombie terrorists, who Fillmore-Graves fight with. Coyotes like Renegade help humans reconnect with their zombie loved ones within the walled city, sometimes by scratching them. Fillmore Graves really doesn't want new zombies, though, because it's hard enough to feed the existing population. Dale Bozzio is a zombie, for a reason that I don't remember, and so she and Clive have an open relationship where they satisfy their sexual needs outside their partnership. Blaine's role is that F-G looks the other way while he runs his covert high-end brains distribution operation and nightclub in exchange for his services with killing anyone F-G wants taken out? I think Max Rager is basically over now? And now Liz is, for some reason, taking over Renegade's old role as a coyote after she was guillotined.

+ there's Angus's bizarre cult

I think the brains Filmore-Graves rations come from bequeathed corpses? Like organ donations. I'm not sure if that could account for the numbers.

Bozzio being a zombie seems totally random.

Honestly, all this stuff seems distant from the qualities that drew me to the show in the first place.

lol I just got why the fancy restaurant is called "Romero's"

The rom com brain episodes really drew me back in.

this season started off wobbly but finished extremely strong

hockey player brain was indeed excellent

The rom com brain episodes really drew me back in.

Watched part 1 and yes, it was a lot of fun!

I must have fallen asleep, but why is Liv no longer dressing like a zombie?

it's because it makes her less conspicuous and less likely to be fingered as renegade iirc

Thx, we both didn't know and I was like, "is this A Christmas Prince sequel thing."

LARPer brain Liv = classic

(It probably doesn't really make sense since I doubt that even the most dedicated LARPer stays in character 24/7 like that but it was so much fun I didn't care.)

The nature of the change when eating brains changed a lot - it seems to have moved from taking on traits to almost be becoming possessed by the person. (Though I might be misremembering the early stuff).

the possession elements are there in the earlier episodes too (i'm rewatching the entire series)

Chase/Logan character is waaay underwhelming; he makes Major look spicy. Maybe it's the actor. Although I loved him on Veronica Mars.

Ha, I was just thinking when watching s4e9 that he was coming into his own.

I just finished E7. My partner hates that I rub my feet on him because of my nails. Now I have the excuse that I am making him a zombie.

Chase/Logan character is waaay underwhelming; he makes Major look spicy. Maybe it's the actor. Although I loved him on Veronica Mars.

otm, I think the character needs to be either smarter or more intimidating for the super-stoic/serious personality to work. It's hard for me to tell if the issue is with the writing or the performance, probably some of both.

also loved him on veronica mars, one of a couple unpredictably great performances on that show

Yerac and intheblanks otm. Loved him as Logan, but found him one-note/one-dimensional as Chase.

As long as they're using VM actors, Ken Marino shoulda been Chase. Wacky and near-maniacal would've been more interesting for that character.

He makes a pretty good, if one dimensional, villain. Better than David Anders anyway.

but he's not really a villain! that's what I like about his development in S4

I didn't want to bring it up, but I am seriously surprised Blaine is still on the show. I was tired of his character in the first season.

I think he was entirely miscast.

He's got a villain's face. x-post

I just see Doogie Howser.

Interesting. Whatever issues I have with the show, I really like both of these characters and casting choices.

yeah, I like Blaine as well

They seem to have toned down his music stannishness a bit, though, which is disappointing.

I think it's more interesting to make Chase Graves a little more like an average dude who's trying to deal with a crazy situation from an unprecedented position of power.

I guess I agree with that in theory, but everything in season 4 has been a little overloaded with plot and side characters so there hasn't really been any time or space to really delve into that. So in the end there's this kind of boring guy who is a major fulcrum of activity, and not enough time to flesh out his dilemmas because we have to see blaine's new crying assistant and the smuggling network guy with the pregnant fiance and so on.

Yeah, the overloading with plot and side characters is what I take issue with.

Also, I honestly just don't sympathize very much with Liv's passion for human smuggling and zombification.

On the whole, it doesn't even seem like a right thing to do, on top of the dangerousness of it. I expect they're going to dig into that.

Revelation about Al in e6 was p disappointing.

So I guess that's that then. A good series on the whole, even if the last season was spotty.

Is the last episode not out in the US yet?

We're on the UK schedule in Canada. I still haven't finished e12; wasn't getting that excited about this whole break-in story.

It aired last week in the US. Definitely a spotty season, and way too confusing. But I was impressed that they managed to find a not-clumsy way to tie up the loose ends in the final episode.

sund4r, I dunno where you're watching the show, but Netflix uses (or used, I guess) the regular American schedule.

*by where, I mean like which channel, I know you're in Canada obv

Netflix is different in the US and Canada.

I used to cross the border regularly and my Netflix offerings would change each time.

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/izombie-season-5-netflix-release-schedule-us-international/

Finale was solid.

Rewatching this: it’s jarring to watch Major watching ‘how do guns work’ YouTube videos in light of who he became.

I'm 3 eps into the latest season, I know folks have already mentioned Kareem's cameo in the Veronica Mars thread, but I still did a double-take when his name showed up in the credits and again in his scene.

It's a shame that the dance episode focuses more on Ravi, because IIRC Rose McIver actually has a dance background and what we see her do is fairly creditable! Unfortunately, the actors playing the two male dancers probably aren't real dancers. (We do at least get some ringers in during that one demo.)

That is the worst hair piece I've ever seen.

The drag episode is such a letdown! The queens didn't have proper makeup, Liv was channeling Katherine Hepburn more than Joan Crawford, etc. But then I guess that whoever wrote the episode does watch Unnhh or however it's spelled.

OK I watched the penultimate episode and it was remarkably good! Love some heist action even if it's a little underdeveloped. (Speaking of underdeveloped the BOB story line kind of fizzles anticlimactically, doesn't it?)

Oh

when you finally realise her name is Liv Moore pic.twitter.com/IiUqvNtfRe

— Rahul Kohli (@RahulKohli13) April 6, 2020

wait til you get to the (now out of date) emp reference

Haha, I only just noticed this reference was in the Patriot Brains episode. I had thought Maura was joking about this.

I watched this whole show and remember nothing about it.

Blaine gets an exclusive pass to hear an unreleased Kurt Cobain demo at EMP.