the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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who's Barnett?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

Dacre's announced resignation from the Daily Mail is a crushing blow for Theresa May and her Brexit strategy. Brexit is now doomed

— Anthony Barnett (@AnthonyBarnett) June 6, 2018

this fellow, mark s used to go on about him a bit!

calzino, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

I'm not sure what he means by doomed.

amusing to see DD do anything he possibly can to resign.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

I did feel bad reading out the news to my missus because the obvious hope would be that he’d died.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

as an ex-SAS reserve DD probably should commit suicide or go on a killing spree or something rather than resigning - Who Dares Totally Shits Out is his new motto!

calzino, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

@NadineDorries

David Davis is ex SAS He’s trained to survive. He’s also trained to take people out. #Brexit

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 June 2018 09:49 (five years ago) link

Nadine Dorries is ex SEN

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 June 2018 09:50 (five years ago) link

ex IACGMOOH

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 7 June 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

nadine dorries quietly encouraging david davis to carry out a murder-suicide mission on theresa may is good not bad

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link

meh! I bet he couldn't even put out a cigarette! He was an SAS Reserve ffs! I loved in the 90's when you'd bump into some Andy McNab bore in the pub telling you how nails the SAS is over and over again. Well here's an important counterpoint to that: David Davis!

calzino, Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:10 (five years ago) link

you'll change your tune right quick after he slots the pm

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link

wait i have a concerning understanding of the verb "to slot"

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:19 (five years ago) link

arrgh! such troubling images (apart from the ones where he punches the 5ft diabetic woman!-oh shit I'll get 51-ed here!)

calzino, Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link

either 'slotting' is sas slang for killing someone or bravo two zero was much more of an erotic story than i realised at the time

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:30 (five years ago) link

speaking of erotic stories

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfFCyTBXUAAiE_a.jpg:large

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:40 (five years ago) link

strong confessions of a (terrible) brexit negotiator vibes.

calzino, Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link

People seem to be taking that Nadine tweet as evidence that the Brexiters are shook and panicking when in fact it's exactly the same sort of deranged nonsense that Dorries comes out with all the time.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

DD such a flouncer. Stephen Bush this morning: On the one hand, this isn't the first time that friends of Davis (or Davis himself) have hinted he might quit as Brexit Secretary - in fact, this is the fifth one.

On the other, it's the looming 10-year-anniversary of the most pointless by-election in history, when Davis quit his job as shadow home secretary in protest over 42 days detention (a policy his party opposed) and triggered a by-election in his ultra-safe seat as a referendum on the issue. (The other parties sensibly denied him the spotlight by not fielding candidates.) The Brexit Secretary has form on pointless resignations.

And have no doubt, this would be a pointless resignation. For the fallback arrangement to be meaningful, it can't be time limited.


I wonder if he has a couple of scotches and decides to *make a stand*. Don’t quite see it. Strikes me as essentially a frivolous man, so maybe he periodically feels the need to aim for seriousness and misses the mark.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

He's shitting himself because he knows he's not up to the job and also must know by now that it's all a terrible idea anyway. It's nothing to do with the backstop.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:19 (five years ago) link

otm

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 12:21 (five years ago) link

Catchy

Government proposes creating a new customs territory after the UK leaves the EU customs territory called “the customs territory comprising the customs territories of the UK and the EU” pic.twitter.com/sTUuJpI7WX

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) June 7, 2018

nashwan, Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

the customs territory of all customs territories that are not members of themselves

Neil S, Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

the ol' tctctctotukateu, trips right off the tongue

or ctcctukeu if you take out all the thes, ofs and ands

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link

feels Lovecraftian.

appropriately

the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

we're leaving the eu in favour of being subsumed into r'lyeh

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

the infernal, mind-destroying clutches of Cthulhu preferable to the current Cabinet IMO
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/look-all-im-saying-is-lets-at-least-give-nyarlathotep-a-chance

Neil S, Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

total centrist dad position

the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

i've long said that no rational person would choose michael gove over any given shoggoth to carry out virtually any task

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

shoggoth is less freaky lookin tbf

the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link

itt: goveshaming

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

which i'm all for, to be clear

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

lol davis rescinds his “threat”. no eyeroll big enough.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

and our prime minister remains safely unslotted :(

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

lol, this arsehole

This Brexiteer became so angry during a rant about Remainers, he had to cut short the call and put the phone down https://t.co/6If6bRCZ43

— LBC (@LBC) June 7, 2018

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

Called into Lush shop to buy present and express my solidarity. Along with many of the victims of #spycops I am grateful to Lush for supporting the campaign for truth and justice. It’s appalling its staff have been intimidated because Lush stood up for us. Let’s stand up for them pic.twitter.com/Hwhxfq8ade

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) June 7, 2018

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

A reminder that David Davis is threatening to resign over something the EU has already rejected

— Adam Payne (@adampayne26) June 7, 2018

(view not as far as I can tell modified by the eventual half-arsed compromise)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

it does sound increasingly like it will be the everybody-gets-a-special-hat version of brexit rather than the, you know, actually leaving the EU one. Which I'm fine with.

plax (ico), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

I assume Labour would attempt to rejoin the ECJ

plax (ico), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

I hope

plax (ico), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

realise i'm being v 'stephen bush says stephen bush says' but i thought this seemed absurd and plausible:

it may be that there is no relationship with the EU - not Brexit, not Remain - that can command a majority of votes in Parliament.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

our new relationship with brussels will be a quantum superposition where we are simultaneously both in and out of the european union at the same time

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

Schrodinger's prevaricating and full of shit cat!

calzino, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/daily-mail-paul-dacre-resign-new-editor-geordie-greig-a8388316.html

I don't really know what the editorial difference between the Mail and MOS is beyond the Remain/Brexit positions, but this Grieg guy looks like a complete twat as well.

calzino, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

I'm working on the assumption that when it comes down to the choice between 'shatter this fragile government' vs 'decide precisely which flavour of Brexit you want', most if not all Labour MPs will plump for the former. Including Corbyn (and if he doesn't...)

I'm also working on the assumption that all Tory MPs know this full well, including Anna Soubry and Dominic Grieve and whoever, and May will therefore be able to command enough votes to squeak through.

So therefore all this Tory dickwaving is pretty much that, it's entirely about jockeying for position to be the next leader/PM and nothing to do with the EU at all, except for the fact that literally everyone else on the hook while said dickwaving goes on.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

dacre and greig fucking hate each other iirc, so i’m okay with this purely on the grounds it’ll eat at him until the day he finally dies

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

Dacre = immigrants/poor people/Muslims/people selling alcopops all threatening Britain
Greig = I like going to parties with Kate Moss and Samantha Cameron, oh look there's some poor people voting Labour, why must they insist on spoiling all this fun?

Given the choice I'd go for the latter every time.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

alcopops are rank tho

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 June 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

Considering the alternative to Greig was apparently the absolute unit of goblin dung that is Tony Gallagher this is a relative relief.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

this kind of bad relativism makes me think of how Chukka + Yvette would be considered hard left socialists in the US!

calzino, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

boris Johnson speculating on how Trump would handle Brexit, were he in charge of delivering it:

“He’d go in bloody hard … There’d be all sorts of breakdowns, all sorts of chaos. Everyone would think he’d gone mad. But actually you might get somewhere. It’s a very, very good thought.”

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 June 2018 08:54 (five years ago) link


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