i guess it could be said that it doesn't matter if someone did or did not like the guy beforehand, since if we know anything about abusers it's that they're often extremely charming and likable, and sometimes seemingly very unlikable curmudgeons treat their friends and family with complete decency and respect and love.
― omar little, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
that's not a shot at anyone here
― omar little, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
at the very least i think we can maybe foresee that the person who is most "shocked" about these claims will be Chris Hardwick himself!
― omar little, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
The palpable relief when the accused celebrity is someone you never liked and the open hand-wringing when it's someone you did are both ... not the important point.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 15 June 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
true
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
For what it's worth, my "quell surprise" has more to do with unease with adult self-proclaimed nerd culture than it was signaling my brilliant taste at not liking the guy.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
I just read up on him. I knew him from Singled Out and Talking Dead but had no clue he was big in certain circles. I'm glad people are reading her essay.
― Yerac, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
People are already quitting Nerdist over it. I highly doubt he gets to keep his TV gigs. So that's something, I guess.
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
I guess that makes two podcast networks run by abusive creeps
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
some of the qualities that made me not like his podcast--the constant boostering for workaholism, the control freaky approach to comedy and culture consumption--is what make the story, if not unsurprising, at least within the realm of "I can see that."
xpost didn't he leave Nerdist months ago? People are quitting because he started it, I guess?
― President Keyes, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
Yeah, it's the association.
Who's the other podcast-network creep?
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
Dustin from Feral Audio
― just1n3, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
"the"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
(but you might be thinking of Nick Robinson?)
Yes I was referring to Feral Dustin.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
Hardwick sold Nerdist six years ago, so anyone who resigns from it today is making an emptier gesture than hand-wringers on message boards.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
Sold it in 2012, completely left it last fall.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link
nerd culture... is bad
― maura, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
it is essentially what happens when people think all the kids except charlie were treated poorly by willy wonka
― maura, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
Yeah, Charlie was treated pretty rotten by Willy Wonka too!
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
an emptier gesture than hand-wringers on message boards
new board description
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
Wringing hands while typing is a special skill which should be valorized imo.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
nerds handling this about as well as you'd expect
lmao pic.twitter.com/T5oWddIqC8— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) June 15, 2018
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link
ok def. couldn't help but laugh at that
― circa1916, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
Well, that sums up the last couple of years. Put it in a time capsule.
― Yerac, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link
I guess I should've realized after the death of satire that irony would be next.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
that would be:
https://www.polygon.com/2018/6/14/17463404/millie-bobby-brown-meme-twitter-deactivation
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link
I haven't listened to Hardwick's podcast in several months, but I hope he hasn't knocked his wife up yet like they were planning so she can gtfo with her Hearst money before it's too late.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
that would be:https://www.polygon.com/2018/6/14/17463404/millie-bobby-brown-meme-twitter-deactivation🕸
― flappy bird, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link
Twitter is such an absolute cesspool.
― Yerac, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
― Three Word Username
whenever i hear the words "nerd culture" i reach for my jockstrap
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:45 (five years ago) link
Shitty nerds have administered more nut punches and atomic wedgies to nerddom than generations of jocks ever did.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 16 June 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
If you haven't been a nerd by the time you are 25, you have no heart; if you are still a nerd after 25, you also have no heart.
― Three Word Username, Saturday, 16 June 2018 05:34 (five years ago) link
I'm all for discussing the toxic elements of nerd culture but lately I've also seen dudes insist that nerds are the problem in a self-distancing way that seems to ignore that men are the problem
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 16 June 2018 06:50 (five years ago) link
if you all say nerd 100 times itt it turns into a reddit thread
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 June 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link
I've also seen dudes insist that nerds are the problem in a self-distancing way that seems to ignore that men are the problemYES. thank you.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 16 June 2018 07:24 (five years ago) link
he’s denied everything, not that that closes the book
― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 16 June 2018 07:34 (five years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 16 June 2018 06:50 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh...still at this eh
― tired culché (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 June 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link
nerd culture = monoculture
monoculture is misogynistic therefore nerd culture is too
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
He specifically denies "sexually assaulting" her, but her own account describes the emotional abuse that led to her passively allowing him to use her prone body for sex whenever he chose - which he verbally mocked at the same time as taking advantage. If it were in court, this would likely be considered consensual activity.
He has not denied that he blocked her from having friends, socialising on her own terms, having independent interests, TALKING IN PUBLIC, nor that he extensively conspired to have her denied multiple employment opportunities after breaking up.
His statement also appears to confirm that he considered, and still does, a single instance of kissing another person to mark her as a scarlet-lettered harlot, unworthy of his glorious love and mighty semen.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
There is a Mel article that is circulating, this part resonates
" ...yet men of his sort keep taking up arms against “social justice warriors” in order to retain the old mentality of living under siege. A nerdy woman threatens their stranglehold on the archive, as well as Hardwick’s flimsy pretext for success: being a dude who knows a fair amount of Doctor Who trivia."
― Yerac, Saturday, 16 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
this makes me feel bad, because i'm a dude who knows a fair amount of doctor who trivia but somehow never managed to conquer the podcast world
i mean it's probably the lisp but damn, people have been calling me an underachiever since bart simpson
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
"He has not denied that he blocked her from having friends, socialising on her own terms, having independent interests, TALKING IN PUBLIC, nor that he extensively conspired to have her denied multiple employment opportunities after breaking up."
I thought this meant he owned up to this but from the statement I read he simply didn't address it.
― akm, Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
yes
every time I've seen or heard Hardwick deliver Dr Who trivia he gets it entirely wrong, but that's not a matter for this thread
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
actually wait, I just remembered an instance where it is, but I have to catch a plane
siege mentality is an aspirational lifestyle for these guys. it's a great fantasy... convince yourself that you're at war, and suddenly the exigency of war is available for you to act without thinking, and funnily enough your reflexive strategies turn out to be congruent with your desires.
you see it in MRWs, fundamentalists, anti-immigration politicians, gun nuts, preppers, police, libertarians... everywhere.
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
Here is the original article that quote was from. https://melmagazine.com/chris-hardwick-and-why-geek-culture-cant-shake-its-misogyny-c9eba7eb0952
― Yerac, Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
besiegers who insist they're being besieged
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
I first assumed due to Doctor Who context that by "Mel article" you meant an op-ed by Bonnie Langford.
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 16 June 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
Nerd culture today is consumerism as religion, harassing women from Star Wars off social media, daily revelations of abuse, & VR billionaires creating tech to crush immigrants. Meanwhile a football player protests violence against Black people & the President mocks him.— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) June 16, 2018
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 16 June 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link