the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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uncertain at best, misleading at worst

That'll be her told, Laura.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Monday, 18 June 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

fuck me, as an ex-epileptic and with another ex-epileptic in the house, I'm thinking it is a good job ppl don't use Epilim or Tegretol as recreational drugs. Although I used to enjoy getting pissed on 2 cans when I was on Tegretol!

calzino, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

You have to spell it out to appreciate the enormity: this government would rather people die than risk an increase in access to a very accessible non-lethal substance. You'd think some public-spirited journalist might want to make big deal of that.

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 June 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/18/parkinsons-and-ms-spared-benefit-retesting-u-turn-pip-assessment?CMP=share_btn_tw

this is good news, I think. But I had a verbal blast at an MS nurse last week who tried to say the criteria for the mobility element of PIP had changed and was encouraging the partner to apply to an MS charity for a mobility scooter rather than re-apply for PIP. I told her she was talking crap and the downright arbitrary and dishonest nature of PIP assessments isn't a criteria ffs!

calzino, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

tbh I wouldn't mind seeing the breakup of the UK after Brexit either, maybe I'd move to Scotland if they'd let me

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

I wonder if this has sunk into the Rees Noggin yet, probably not - he much prefers the art of speaking over listening!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't recommend living in Scotland if NI leaves the UK, just imagine the influx of Loyalist cunts that would ensue.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

oh god *shudder*

CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

The Final Solution!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link

"the benefits of brexit"

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:34 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't recommend living in Scotland if NI leaves the UK, just imagine the influx of Loyalist cunts that would ensue.

Would this still happen if Scotland was independent? Wouldn't they move to England in that scenario?

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

xpost was gonna ask..

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

Do Rangers play in England?

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

They're "Ulster Scots", they hate the English.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

They don't *play* in Scotland tbf

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link

"Do Rangers play in England?"

it's bad enough when they are taking some of our average to mediocre EFL L2 young talent up to Scotland!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

As a regular reader of the home of conservatism, the comments on that Nicky Morgan article are unreal even by their standards.

wow, yes!

"It says it all, really, that an older male Tory MP should object to outlawing a sexual crime which makes use of twenty-first century technology."

What a vile woman, trying to score points for your libtard agenda by smearing a colleague. "
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"WOW!
Actually be careful here. Out in the middle of nowhere - in other words north of Watford - things are changing fast. Our town ((Wisbech) is now Baltic. Peterborough centre and Mall are now more foreign than Dubai (I mean this).
I speak to local people and, secretly, we find homosexuality (most of the people I speak to are my age - 70s) embarrassing and something that should not be paraded about. We also are concerned about fussy government interfering with our lives. The women I speak to think that permissiveness on MTV and so on has gone too far. "
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"If the NHS needs funding then use our Overseas Aid budget. Which idiot thought up the idea to give Rwanda £62M so they could give £30M to Arsenal football club. Come back Farage. Who on earth would vote for this bunch?"

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"We should all be prepared to abstain or vote tactically at the next general election if there is not a full and complete Brexit."

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"That's a good enough reason not to. The Sun warned against Labour being led by a Gay Mafia when the right-on Blair took over and filled his Cabinet with homosexuals, but they would have nothing on the new, modern "Conservative" party. "

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

omg yes the septugenarian homophobe was the one I was thinking of. They’re always going on about how they hate Cameron and how everyone to the left of JRM is a Lib Dem.

gyac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

Libtard!

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

I haven't seen MTV written down for eons.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

Takes a very impressive mindset to believe that the over 70s should be at the heart of social policy

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

ws...laws...laws...control...control....control....
Ms Morgan loves the above.
The BBC upskirts on Prime Time TV to the entire world for two weeks every summer.
It's called Wimbledon.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

Surely in this era of feminism, all females should be able to look after themselves just as men do. Why should they need special laws applicable only to their sex, we are all equal now.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

luv2be concerned about fussy government interfering in our lives but also want to regulate how much homosexuality is allowed to be displayed in public

CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

We should poll some of these takes tbh.

In Grantham, I hear as many Polish speakers as English. But my Polish neighbours are friendly and the Latvian's ain't bad.
The town is a hotbed of homosexuality. We are run by a gay mafia. Mr Boles is the Mp, the council leader is gay and I suspect the deputy is too. The bishop is also gay, as am I.
Of course, safer to be in the countryside than in Islamic Leicester.

gyac, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

In the birthplace of the Blessed Margaret no less!

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

Latvians: a not bad bunch of lads

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

Latvian's - so just the one Latvian then.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

haha! that is amazing. brb, moving to Grantham.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

brb, moving to Grantham doesn't make any sense :/

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

I recently heard Grantham is a bit moribund these days.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

are you sure that wasn't about Leslie Grantham?

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

ah! that was the one!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

Dead as German taxi driver.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

I know Spitting Image was bad, generally unfunny and not good. But I can remember lolling at a Leslie Grantham calling a cab sketch, where he is re-assuring the driver that he just wants to go somewhere and has no intentions of murdering him on this occasion, multiple times.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

brb, moving to Grantham doesn't make any sense :/

lol

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

"We should all be prepared to abstain ... at the next general election if there is not a full and complete Brexit."

that feeling when you wake from a dream feeling so, so serene until you wake up enough to remember which reality you actually live in

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

I feel that almost every day tbh, even shit dreams where I'm carrying a bag for some rich guy or trying make a frying pan out of plasticine as the comet approaches, both beat the hell out of this diabolical reality!

calzino, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

Anecdotal at best but my dad who is a casual racist who occasionally votes for real actual practicing racists has come around in the last few years to being ok with gay people. what caused this acceptance? Gogglebox. Really. Maybe there's some hope for the old cunt? I do mildly challenge him if he says something racist, I probably should do more but my relationship with my father has been an issue for me throughout my life and I've cut him out for years at s time but all that does is riddle me with guilt. I suppose I haven't given up on him yet. He was a union man, matched against Thatcher etc. I think he could be turned. Dunno if I can do it

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

It's difficult (especially in the way I argue with ppl 'lol') but its important to do it even if it's a risk. I know my dad hated it but in the end respect did remain. He always voted the right way though.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:27 (five years ago) link

The town is a hotbed of homosexuality. We are run by a gay mafia. Mr Boles is the Mp, the council leader is gay and I suspect the deputy is too. The bishop is also gay, as am I.

A Warning to the Karius (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:54 (five years ago) link

classic.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

I'm confused, I can't tell if he's showing solidarity with or bashing the bishop!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

also is he a part of the gay mafia or under their jurisdiction?

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link

Personal life
Boles is gay,[22] and in May 2011, he entered a civil partnership, as noted in his contribution to the parliamentary debate on the Middle East on 16 May 2011.[23]

In August 2012, he was criticised for claiming £678.80 in Parliamentary expenses for Hebrew lessons so that he could talk to his partner.[24]

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

I'm confused, I can't tell if he's showing solidarity with or bashing the bishop!

Maybe he joined the gay mafia to have access to the town’s power structures.

The PM has just claimed that the UK opposes the detention of children - but hasn’t this been going on in this country since Blair? Obligatory link to appalling thread:

Thread: It's easy to criticise British democracy. But imagine the Trump family separation policy was happening in the UK.

— Arieh Kovler (@ariehkovler) June 18, 2018

Reply which has not been addressed by the author:

from a 2013 report on how the UK border regime separates children from their parents, through detention and/or deportation. pic.twitter.com/rEUrQRShQJ

— michael (@Sisyphusa) June 17, 2018

gyac, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

Anecdotal at best but my dad who is a casual racist who occasionally votes for real actual practicing racists has come around in the last few years to being ok with gay people. what caused this acceptance? Gogglebox. Really. Maybe there's some hope for the old cunt? I do mildly challenge him if he says something racist, I probably should do more but my relationship with my father has been an issue for me throughout my life and I've cut him out for years at s time but all that does is riddle me with guilt. I suppose I haven't given up on him yet. He was a union man, matched against Thatcher etc. I think he could be turned. Dunno if I can do it

― Colonel Poo

for what it's worth, once my dad died i fairly quickly realized that i had nothing at all to be guilty about and i'd wasted a fair amount of time being silly. ymmv.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

October 2017 - SNP announces fracking ban in Scotland
2018 - Ineos raise court case to get ban overturned
Scottish Government pays for lawyer to argue that there's nothing to overturn as there isn't a ban after all and it was just "PR gloss"
Judge finds against Ineos and says in summing up that ministers have repeatedly mis-spoken to maintain the gloss.
Energy minister insists afterwards the SG lawyer didn't accurately represent the SG position and there is a ban after all.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link


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