the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

xpost was gonna ask..

Do Rangers play in England?

They're "Ulster Scots", they hate the English.

They don't *play* in Scotland tbf

"Do Rangers play in England?"

it's bad enough when they are taking some of our average to mediocre EFL L2 young talent up to Scotland!

As a regular reader of the home of conservatism, the comments on that Nicky Morgan article are unreal even by their standards.

wow, yes!

"It says it all, really, that an older male Tory MP should object to outlawing a sexual crime which makes use of twenty-first century technology."

What a vile woman, trying to score points for your libtard agenda by smearing a colleague. "
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"WOW!
Actually be careful here. Out in the middle of nowhere - in other words north of Watford - things are changing fast. Our town ((Wisbech) is now Baltic. Peterborough centre and Mall are now more foreign than Dubai (I mean this).
I speak to local people and, secretly, we find homosexuality (most of the people I speak to are my age - 70s) embarrassing and something that should not be paraded about. We also are concerned about fussy government interfering with our lives. The women I speak to think that permissiveness on MTV and so on has gone too far. "
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"If the NHS needs funding then use our Overseas Aid budget. Which idiot thought up the idea to give Rwanda £62M so they could give £30M to Arsenal football club. Come back Farage. Who on earth would vote for this bunch?"

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"We should all be prepared to abstain or vote tactically at the next general election if there is not a full and complete Brexit."

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"That's a good enough reason not to. The Sun warned against Labour being led by a Gay Mafia when the right-on Blair took over and filled his Cabinet with homosexuals, but they would have nothing on the new, modern "Conservative" party. "

omg yes the septugenarian homophobe was the one I was thinking of. They’re always going on about how they hate Cameron and how everyone to the left of JRM is a Lib Dem.

Libtard!

I haven't seen MTV written down for eons.

Takes a very impressive mindset to believe that the over 70s should be at the heart of social policy

ws...laws...laws...control...control....control....
Ms Morgan loves the above.
The BBC upskirts on Prime Time TV to the entire world for two weeks every summer.
It's called Wimbledon.

Surely in this era of feminism, all females should be able to look after themselves just as men do. Why should they need special laws applicable only to their sex, we are all equal now.

luv2be concerned about fussy government interfering in our lives but also want to regulate how much homosexuality is allowed to be displayed in public

We should poll some of these takes tbh.

In Grantham, I hear as many Polish speakers as English. But my Polish neighbours are friendly and the Latvian's ain't bad.
The town is a hotbed of homosexuality. We are run by a gay mafia. Mr Boles is the Mp, the council leader is gay and I suspect the deputy is too. The bishop is also gay, as am I.
Of course, safer to be in the countryside than in Islamic Leicester.

In the birthplace of the Blessed Margaret no less!

Latvians: a not bad bunch of lads

Latvian's - so just the one Latvian then.

haha! that is amazing. brb, moving to Grantham.

brb, moving to Grantham doesn't make any sense :/

I recently heard Grantham is a bit moribund these days.

are you sure that wasn't about Leslie Grantham?

ah! that was the one!

Dead as German taxi driver.

lol!

I know Spitting Image was bad, generally unfunny and not good. But I can remember lolling at a Leslie Grantham calling a cab sketch, where he is re-assuring the driver that he just wants to go somewhere and has no intentions of murdering him on this occasion, multiple times.

brb, moving to Grantham doesn't make any sense :/

lol

"We should all be prepared to abstain ... at the next general election if there is not a full and complete Brexit."

that feeling when you wake from a dream feeling so, so serene until you wake up enough to remember which reality you actually live in

I feel that almost every day tbh, even shit dreams where I'm carrying a bag for some rich guy or trying make a frying pan out of plasticine as the comet approaches, both beat the hell out of this diabolical reality!

Anecdotal at best but my dad who is a casual racist who occasionally votes for real actual practicing racists has come around in the last few years to being ok with gay people. what caused this acceptance? Gogglebox. Really. Maybe there's some hope for the old cunt? I do mildly challenge him if he says something racist, I probably should do more but my relationship with my father has been an issue for me throughout my life and I've cut him out for years at s time but all that does is riddle me with guilt. I suppose I haven't given up on him yet. He was a union man, matched against Thatcher etc. I think he could be turned. Dunno if I can do it

It's difficult (especially in the way I argue with ppl 'lol') but its important to do it even if it's a risk. I know my dad hated it but in the end respect did remain. He always voted the right way though.

The town is a hotbed of homosexuality. We are run by a gay mafia. Mr Boles is the Mp, the council leader is gay and I suspect the deputy is too. The bishop is also gay, as am I.

classic.

I'm confused, I can't tell if he's showing solidarity with or bashing the bishop!

also is he a part of the gay mafia or under their jurisdiction?

Personal life
Boles is gay,[22] and in May 2011, he entered a civil partnership, as noted in his contribution to the parliamentary debate on the Middle East on 16 May 2011.[23]

In August 2012, he was criticised for claiming £678.80 in Parliamentary expenses for Hebrew lessons so that he could talk to his partner.[24]

I'm confused, I can't tell if he's showing solidarity with or bashing the bishop!

Maybe he joined the gay mafia to have access to the town’s power structures.

The PM has just claimed that the UK opposes the detention of children - but hasn’t this been going on in this country since Blair? Obligatory link to appalling thread:

Thread: It's easy to criticise British democracy. But imagine the Trump family separation policy was happening in the UK.

— Arieh Kovler (@ariehkovler) June 18, 2018

Reply which has not been addressed by the author:

from a 2013 report on how the UK border regime separates children from their parents, through detention and/or deportation. pic.twitter.com/rEUrQRShQJ

— michael (@Sisyphusa) June 17, 2018

Anecdotal at best but my dad who is a casual racist who occasionally votes for real actual practicing racists has come around in the last few years to being ok with gay people. what caused this acceptance? Gogglebox. Really. Maybe there's some hope for the old cunt? I do mildly challenge him if he says something racist, I probably should do more but my relationship with my father has been an issue for me throughout my life and I've cut him out for years at s time but all that does is riddle me with guilt. I suppose I haven't given up on him yet. He was a union man, matched against Thatcher etc. I think he could be turned. Dunno if I can do it

― Colonel Poo

for what it's worth, once my dad died i fairly quickly realized that i had nothing at all to be guilty about and i'd wasted a fair amount of time being silly. ymmv.

October 2017 - SNP announces fracking ban in Scotland
2018 - Ineos raise court case to get ban overturned
Scottish Government pays for lawyer to argue that there's nothing to overturn as there isn't a ban after all and it was just "PR gloss"
Judge finds against Ineos and says in summing up that ministers have repeatedly mis-spoken to maintain the gloss.
Energy minister insists afterwards the SG lawyer didn't accurately represent the SG position and there is a ban after all.

real things that real MPs definitely say to journos pt. 75732156622598

2. It also postpones the day (again) when Theresa May faces down either wing of her party - as such it this will frustrate her internal critics again, one said, 'usual https://t.co/adR6kw8YFd from number 10'

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) June 20, 2018

ty Twitter for linking to well-known holiday website

lol

Lovely stuff.

I’ve just seen a Labour MP in a wheelchair with a paper sick bucket looking in lots of pain after voting (because Tories refused MPs who r ill to vote from the car park). It was quite a sad sight.

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) June 20, 2018

Justine Greening will BACK the meaningful vote amendment. @Will_DryOFOC and @lara_spirit met with her this morning! THANK YOU @JustineGreening !! pic.twitter.com/dxZ7f1VfWx

— Our Future, Our Choice (@OFOCBrexit) June 12, 2018

(Narrator’s voice) Justine Greening did not back the meaningful vote amendment.

not really feeling the disobedience of these Tory remainer rebels, there was more conviction in Kinnock's orange chomp!

paul mason had laid his cards down, some interesting stuff and also this:

Is this strategy designed to allow the populations of the developed world to capture more of the growth projected over the next 5-15 years, if necessary at the cost of China, India and Brazil having to find new ways to break out of the middle income trap? Would it, in other words, flatten out and reverse the trends captured in Branko Milanovic’s famous “elephant graph” over the next two decades?

For me the answer is yes. This is a programme to save democracy, democratic institutions and values in the developed world by reversing the 30-year policy of enriching the bottom 60% and the top 1% of the world’s population.

It is a programme to deliver growth and prosperity in Wigan, Newport and Kirkcaldy – if necessary at the price of not delivering them to Shenzhen, Bombay and Dubai.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/kind-capitalism-possible-left-build/

@stoya come to Wigan

When you cut through his bad, long-winded waffle, his ideas are fucking shit and he is a clown is my not very nuanced take!

autarky in the UK type dreaming from someone who writes like he is completely detached from reality.

sorry probably not the best take, but I really hate this cretin these days, and his ideas seem borderline fascist at times!

Your take is more polite than every other I’ve seen on it so far.

It basically boils down to implementing Chinese style authoritarian state capitalism with a few soc-dem policies thrown in. Somehow, i suspect Shenzhen will cope.