Whut.
Never trust America.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
I lost interest in the Sundays with "Summertime" – 'ebullience' is the right word but it's too spelled out, didactic? You can see the DNA connecting it and "Kiss Me."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
Your reaction makes sense to me but I think "Summertime" benefits more from close attention - there's much more shade to its light than is first apparent. The way the second verse so closely mirrors the first but entirely reverses the narrative into one of tragedy and disaster, even if slightly winking, recasts the entire rest of the song (and retroactively the earlier stretch of the song) as an elegy to fleeting happiness - hence the final line, "...or have I read too much fiction? Is this how it happens?"
In this regard I wouldn't agree that it's "didactic" - the didactic version of the same song is probably The Future Bible Heroes' "Real Summer" (though that song prospers by its gloomy insistence on spelling things out).
― Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
I lost interest in the Sundays with "Summertime"
smh
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
there was a period a few years ago where i was really falling for someone but the entire situation was full of uncertainty and seemed like it could fall apart at any point and i sure did listen to "summertime" a lot then
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
Huh, "Sway" never charted in the states. That's...odd.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:19 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh huh i guess i'm only aware of it bc of the american pie soundtrack
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link
I think that's were most of us here discovered it.
It was a CVS jam for awhile.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
whereas the number one selling point of "Kiss Me" is the arrangement.
last time i heard ‘kiss me’ i thought the opposite. it’s like those band practices where someone brings a melody and chord progression so killer you know all you have to do is stay out of the way
― flopson, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
‘Sway’ is beautiful
― flopson, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4vkasTzVeU
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
^^ 'Shouei'/Sway of some sorts, and would've fitted Dawsons Creek perfectly.
Also, 'Kiss Me' rules, Alfred (for once) drools.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
I am a man with a beer gut, a propane grill, and approximately eleven guitars and I like or love every song mentioned in this thread. I didn't care that "Wrong Impression" felt like a Sundays imitation, because even imitating the Sundays is a way to evoke the joy I get from the actual Sundays. Even if "Summertime" or "Static & Silence" constitute the Sundays imitating the Sundays I am all for it. More please.
I think I even owned the Sixpence CD with "Kiss Me." No regrets, even if I turned up my nose at the Christian stuff ("Waiting Room").
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
How about "Breathe Your Name"? The lyrics seem obviously Xtian; but I always thought it was clever how it fit on secular radio b/c it could be (mis-)heard as referring to romantic rather than religious rapture, if you weren't listening closely.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
Yeah morrisp, compare the Amy Grant of "Unguarded" - love songs that could easily be read as romantic or religious as the audience required.
― too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
or Michelle Branch's Everywhere.
― how's life, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
donna lewis the goat
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
relistening to this properly and realising what a reserved vocal performance it is, I can imagine it makes a more fun song to inhabit as a listener that you can't do with a song by The Sundays in the same way
"Wrong Impression" is a great song but in an entirely different way - giddy and glossy and widescreen in a way "Kiss Me" struggles to reach and The Sundays aren't trying to
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link
re: giddy glossiness, compare "Break Out."
― ~ cows come home (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
If you were music supervisor on a contemporary remake of She’s All That, which song would you have play when Laney comes down the staircase?
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Sunday, 26 April 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link
"All That" by Carly Rae, obvi
― winters (josh), Sunday, 26 April 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link