the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Anecdotal at best but my dad who is a casual racist who occasionally votes for real actual practicing racists has come around in the last few years to being ok with gay people. what caused this acceptance? Gogglebox. Really. Maybe there's some hope for the old cunt? I do mildly challenge him if he says something racist, I probably should do more but my relationship with my father has been an issue for me throughout my life and I've cut him out for years at s time but all that does is riddle me with guilt. I suppose I haven't given up on him yet. He was a union man, matched against Thatcher etc. I think he could be turned. Dunno if I can do it

It's difficult (especially in the way I argue with ppl 'lol') but its important to do it even if it's a risk. I know my dad hated it but in the end respect did remain. He always voted the right way though.

The town is a hotbed of homosexuality. We are run by a gay mafia. Mr Boles is the Mp, the council leader is gay and I suspect the deputy is too. The bishop is also gay, as am I.

classic.

I'm confused, I can't tell if he's showing solidarity with or bashing the bishop!

also is he a part of the gay mafia or under their jurisdiction?

Personal life
Boles is gay,[22] and in May 2011, he entered a civil partnership, as noted in his contribution to the parliamentary debate on the Middle East on 16 May 2011.[23]

In August 2012, he was criticised for claiming £678.80 in Parliamentary expenses for Hebrew lessons so that he could talk to his partner.[24]

I'm confused, I can't tell if he's showing solidarity with or bashing the bishop!

Maybe he joined the gay mafia to have access to the town’s power structures.

The PM has just claimed that the UK opposes the detention of children - but hasn’t this been going on in this country since Blair? Obligatory link to appalling thread:

Thread: It's easy to criticise British democracy. But imagine the Trump family separation policy was happening in the UK.

— Arieh Kovler (@ariehkovler) June 18, 2018

Reply which has not been addressed by the author:

from a 2013 report on how the UK border regime separates children from their parents, through detention and/or deportation. pic.twitter.com/rEUrQRShQJ

— michael (@Sisyphusa) June 17, 2018

Anecdotal at best but my dad who is a casual racist who occasionally votes for real actual practicing racists has come around in the last few years to being ok with gay people. what caused this acceptance? Gogglebox. Really. Maybe there's some hope for the old cunt? I do mildly challenge him if he says something racist, I probably should do more but my relationship with my father has been an issue for me throughout my life and I've cut him out for years at s time but all that does is riddle me with guilt. I suppose I haven't given up on him yet. He was a union man, matched against Thatcher etc. I think he could be turned. Dunno if I can do it

― Colonel Poo

for what it's worth, once my dad died i fairly quickly realized that i had nothing at all to be guilty about and i'd wasted a fair amount of time being silly. ymmv.

October 2017 - SNP announces fracking ban in Scotland
2018 - Ineos raise court case to get ban overturned
Scottish Government pays for lawyer to argue that there's nothing to overturn as there isn't a ban after all and it was just "PR gloss"
Judge finds against Ineos and says in summing up that ministers have repeatedly mis-spoken to maintain the gloss.
Energy minister insists afterwards the SG lawyer didn't accurately represent the SG position and there is a ban after all.

real things that real MPs definitely say to journos pt. 75732156622598

2. It also postpones the day (again) when Theresa May faces down either wing of her party - as such it this will frustrate her internal critics again, one said, 'usual https://t.co/adR6kw8YFd from number 10'

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) June 20, 2018

ty Twitter for linking to well-known holiday website

lol

Lovely stuff.

I’ve just seen a Labour MP in a wheelchair with a paper sick bucket looking in lots of pain after voting (because Tories refused MPs who r ill to vote from the car park). It was quite a sad sight.

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) June 20, 2018

Justine Greening will BACK the meaningful vote amendment. @Will_DryOFOC and @lara_spirit met with her this morning! THANK YOU @JustineGreening !! pic.twitter.com/dxZ7f1VfWx

— Our Future, Our Choice (@OFOCBrexit) June 12, 2018

(Narrator’s voice) Justine Greening did not back the meaningful vote amendment.

not really feeling the disobedience of these Tory remainer rebels, there was more conviction in Kinnock's orange chomp!

paul mason had laid his cards down, some interesting stuff and also this:

Is this strategy designed to allow the populations of the developed world to capture more of the growth projected over the next 5-15 years, if necessary at the cost of China, India and Brazil having to find new ways to break out of the middle income trap? Would it, in other words, flatten out and reverse the trends captured in Branko Milanovic’s famous “elephant graph” over the next two decades?

For me the answer is yes. This is a programme to save democracy, democratic institutions and values in the developed world by reversing the 30-year policy of enriching the bottom 60% and the top 1% of the world’s population.

It is a programme to deliver growth and prosperity in Wigan, Newport and Kirkcaldy – if necessary at the price of not delivering them to Shenzhen, Bombay and Dubai.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/kind-capitalism-possible-left-build/

@stoya come to Wigan

When you cut through his bad, long-winded waffle, his ideas are fucking shit and he is a clown is my not very nuanced take!

autarky in the UK type dreaming from someone who writes like he is completely detached from reality.

sorry probably not the best take, but I really hate this cretin these days, and his ideas seem borderline fascist at times!

Your take is more polite than every other I’ve seen on it so far.

It basically boils down to implementing Chinese style authoritarian state capitalism with a few soc-dem policies thrown in. Somehow, i suspect Shenzhen will cope.

In week one and month one: survive the financial backlash and mobilise the people by giving them clear, tangible things to defend. In the first year, kickstart growth and wage growth through fiscal and monetary expansion.

bish, bash, bosh ... just mobilise the ppl + pull the fiscal and monetary expansion lever John! He is basically playing with his lego set mostly. And to have a command capitalism model, wouldn't you require a healthy manufacturing industry as a starting point or is overpriced Scottish shortbread and the relatively tiny weapons of death industry gonna do it for us!

tl;dr

who does he fancy for the World Cup?

Wales!

It’ll be interesting how much traction he gets with this. The immediate reaction of the internationalist, young leftists I’ve seen is that he should be excommunicated but I can’t see the Blue Labour economic nationalists getting on board with nationalising Facebook, or w/e.

i saw the bit where he gave a hat tip to environmental sustainability, has he got a plan to make the environment stop at Calais?

The trade minister Greg Hands (which sounds a problem after drunkenly eating a steak bake), has resigned over the Heathrow expansion.

Talking of Blue Labour, let’s see how one of their leading lights is getting on...

Nice to see that all those on the Left who have spent years agitating against the idea of the nuclear family and doing everything in their power to dismantle it are suddenly so keen to see families stick together.

— Paul Embery (@PaulEmbery) June 21, 2018

I must have missed the campaigns for the re-introduction of industrial schools/orphanages/workhouses by the "left" in recent years!

anyway, austerity has probably caused more fractious family break-ups and kids put into state care than any so-called left policies.

You know when you just want to reply "what the fuck is wrong with you?"

Embery a bit of an underdog in the Whataboutery World Cup but, listen, this is lad is some mug.

wow. I don't even know where to start with that one

Good example of nominative determinism tho.

That was easier to point out than another long heartfelt rant about why I'd like to execute every last motherfucking one of Blue Labour as a net overall gain for humanity.

"Won't somebody think of the nuclear family?" is the bat-signal of a cunt

check the acting in this

Today Parliament has passed the EU Withdrawal Bill, a crucial step in delivering a smooth and orderly Brexit – the Brexit people voted for. pic.twitter.com/tuMoTAcYSt

— Theresa May (@theresa_may) June 20, 2018

Watched that on mute, look like she's on some of Gideon's goofballs.

I’d say it looks like a hostage video but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one that unnatural.

May is so fucking weird, I almost feel like I should like her sometimes!

but the feeling soon passes.

She's blinking SOS if you watch closely.

the twat Evan Davis chuckling away derisively when talking to Paul Everett (a representative of ADS - Aerospace, Defence and Security industries) and brushing aside his concern about a No Deal Scenario was a low even for him. Everett stopped him moving on to that ghoul Peter Bone and made him peddle back - "If I can stop you there - blowing off your foot may well be a negotiating strategy but it isn't one that fills industry with confidence".

i just read some Brooker cohort is going to direct a one-off ch4 brexit drama with Benny Cumbersome-thatch playing Dominic Cummings, sounds fucking worthless tbh!

xp

reading FPBE types accounts of the encounter, they make it sound like Evan Davis was eloquently running rings around the aptly name troglodyte Bone, and doing a very good job. Not that I believe them much!

Sometimes Evan has been much better at the alleged impartiality the BBC are supposed to practice than most of the other QT/Newsnight twats, but that really isn't saying much tbh.

I see Liam Fox is trotting out all his Negotiation With Jack Donaghy moves again.

If someone walks away from a normal negotiation then both parties are in the same position they were at the start. Literally everyone knows that manifestly isn't the case here.

xpost it runs too often to toothlessness imo

there are larger problems w Newsnight than Davis though. the viewing figures are low enough now that the government simply doesn't turn up to the show. it's been many months afaict. and it's had a ripple effect. they just never seem to have the people who really know what the hell is going on. they have all these peripheral types instead. structurally they appear to have abandoned even the faintest simulation of journalistic balance. they'll have three people all on the same side of an issue. and they continue to run these inane cultural packages at the end of the show. it's like the show is being run by morons.

Privatise, privatise, privatise !

After the Tory remainer rebels have been whipped into line, they don't seem to have made any discernible difference to the Brexit dialogue at all. Yet more No Deal faux hardman talk from Fox doesn't make it seem like they've won any concessions at all.