the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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who does he fancy for the World Cup?

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link

Wales!

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link

It’ll be interesting how much traction he gets with this. The immediate reaction of the internationalist, young leftists I’ve seen is that he should be excommunicated but I can’t see the Blue Labour economic nationalists getting on board with nationalising Facebook, or w/e.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

i saw the bit where he gave a hat tip to environmental sustainability, has he got a plan to make the environment stop at Calais?

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:48 (five years ago) link

The trade minister Greg Hands (which sounds a problem after drunkenly eating a steak bake), has resigned over the Heathrow expansion.

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link

Talking of Blue Labour, let’s see how one of their leading lights is getting on...

Nice to see that all those on the Left who have spent years agitating against the idea of the nuclear family and doing everything in their power to dismantle it are suddenly so keen to see families stick together.

— Paul Embery (@PaulEmbery) June 21, 2018

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link

I must have missed the campaigns for the re-introduction of industrial schools/orphanages/workhouses by the "left" in recent years!

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

anyway, austerity has probably caused more fractious family break-ups and kids put into state care than any so-called left policies.

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link

You know when you just want to reply "what the fuck is wrong with you?"

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link

Embery a bit of an underdog in the Whataboutery World Cup but, listen, this is lad is some mug.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

wow. I don't even know where to start with that one

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

Good example of nominative determinism tho.

That was easier to point out than another long heartfelt rant about why I'd like to execute every last motherfucking one of Blue Labour as a net overall gain for humanity.

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

"Won't somebody think of the nuclear family?" is the bat-signal of a cunt

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

check the acting in this

Today Parliament has passed the EU Withdrawal Bill, a crucial step in delivering a smooth and orderly Brexit – the Brexit people voted for. pic.twitter.com/tuMoTAcYSt

— Theresa May (@theresa_may) June 20, 2018

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

Watched that on mute, look like she's on some of Gideon's goofballs.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

I’d say it looks like a hostage video but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one that unnatural.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

May is so fucking weird, I almost feel like I should like her sometimes!

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

but the feeling soon passes.

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

She's blinking SOS if you watch closely.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

the twat Evan Davis chuckling away derisively when talking to Paul Everett (a representative of ADS - Aerospace, Defence and Security industries) and brushing aside his concern about a No Deal Scenario was a low even for him. Everett stopped him moving on to that ghoul Peter Bone and made him peddle back - "If I can stop you there - blowing off your foot may well be a negotiating strategy but it isn't one that fills industry with confidence".

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 22 June 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

i just read some Brooker cohort is going to direct a one-off ch4 brexit drama with Benny Cumbersome-thatch playing Dominic Cummings, sounds fucking worthless tbh!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:21 (five years ago) link

xp

reading FPBE types accounts of the encounter, they make it sound like Evan Davis was eloquently running rings around the aptly name troglodyte Bone, and doing a very good job. Not that I believe them much!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:38 (five years ago) link

Sometimes Evan has been much better at the alleged impartiality the BBC are supposed to practice than most of the other QT/Newsnight twats, but that really isn't saying much tbh.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link

I see Liam Fox is trotting out all his Negotiation With Jack Donaghy moves again.

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

If someone walks away from a normal negotiation then both parties are in the same position they were at the start. Literally everyone knows that manifestly isn't the case here.

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:53 (five years ago) link

xpost it runs too often to toothlessness imo

there are larger problems w Newsnight than Davis though. the viewing figures are low enough now that the government simply doesn't turn up to the show. it's been many months afaict. and it's had a ripple effect. they just never seem to have the people who really know what the hell is going on. they have all these peripheral types instead. structurally they appear to have abandoned even the faintest simulation of journalistic balance. they'll have three people all on the same side of an issue. and they continue to run these inane cultural packages at the end of the show. it's like the show is being run by morons.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

Privatise, privatise, privatise !

After the Tory remainer rebels have been whipped into line, they don't seem to have made any discernible difference to the Brexit dialogue at all. Yet more No Deal faux hardman talk from Fox doesn't make it seem like they've won any concessions at all.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:04 (five years ago) link

doesn't

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

I mean whatever private promises May made to get them in line about having a "meaningful vote" is completely undermined by Fox/BJ's shittalking.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/heathrow-expansion-third-runway-rich-benefits-business-a8412121.html

“Our research shows that demand for new runway capacity has nothing to do with business travel to emerging economies, or new domestic routes between London and Scotland. The drive to expand Heathrow is fundamentally about catering to the whims of an elite group of wealthy frequent leisure flyers, many of whom are travelling to second homes in Europe dozens of times a year."

lol this is a Civil Aviation Authority quote, not Corbz or McDonnell.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link

FBPEs on the march:

Blairites saying the government has to listen to a demonstration. Classic https://t.co/ebTPlnDwR2

— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) June 23, 2018

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

this fuckin guy

topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

lol can't we give them the Isle of Wight or something and see how they get on?

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

6 months later... *camera pans across post-apocalyptic wasteland full of fluttering tatters of EU flags, local artisanal traders*

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

More tears:

Jeremy's in Jordan. When he should be representing his own people and supporting them, he decided to go to Za'atari as far away from #PeoplesVoteMarch as possible, but looking good as it's a refugee camp. But his own people need him as BREXIT is ruining the country. Hiding out! pic.twitter.com/EKf4hL3awe

— Janet #FBPE Starkey-Young #NO BREXIT (@ahimsaveganism) June 23, 2018

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

Really enjoying the world cup and didn't want to bring this nonsense up but y'know.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

they need a software update, or maybe some drugs!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

this is the passion and commitment that transformed the country under the Blair government

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

remember when Gordon Brown subsidized low paying employers thru the easily accessible tax credit scheme and poverty was wiped out for a generation

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

this is why we fight

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

give me middle class comfort under the EU or give me death

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

is that Nolan's version of Why We Fight?

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

Corbyn is just gone to a refugee camp to "look good" - is there now ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER this man is voted LEAVE?!?!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

he should at least prove he voted remain by being a flag waving vulgarian for a day!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

Why does Corbyn hate democracy?

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

The real question is what did he have written on the back of his kagoule.

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

Foreign Secretary turns Trotskyite punk rocker, on page 8 of ⁦@Telegraph⁩. The fate of so many Old Etonians pic.twitter.com/nTc992Djdo

— Robert Peston (@Peston) June 23, 2018

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Anthony Barnett does a good job of making regulation really interesting here. the ongoing brexit gridlock has revealed how contentious and barely articulated our ideas about democracy and sovereignty are

https://www.opendemocracy.net/anthony-barnett/why-brexit-won-t-work-eu-is-about-regulation-not-sovereignty

ogmor, Monday, 25 June 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link

Will a steamroller do instead of a bulldozer? This fucking guy...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/wheres-boris-johnson-tory-dodges-12785465

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link


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