the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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wow. I don't even know where to start with that one

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

Good example of nominative determinism tho.

That was easier to point out than another long heartfelt rant about why I'd like to execute every last motherfucking one of Blue Labour as a net overall gain for humanity.

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

"Won't somebody think of the nuclear family?" is the bat-signal of a cunt

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

check the acting in this

Today Parliament has passed the EU Withdrawal Bill, a crucial step in delivering a smooth and orderly Brexit – the Brexit people voted for. pic.twitter.com/tuMoTAcYSt

— Theresa May (@theresa_may) June 20, 2018

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

Watched that on mute, look like she's on some of Gideon's goofballs.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

I’d say it looks like a hostage video but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one that unnatural.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

May is so fucking weird, I almost feel like I should like her sometimes!

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

but the feeling soon passes.

calzino, Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

She's blinking SOS if you watch closely.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

the twat Evan Davis chuckling away derisively when talking to Paul Everett (a representative of ADS - Aerospace, Defence and Security industries) and brushing aside his concern about a No Deal Scenario was a low even for him. Everett stopped him moving on to that ghoul Peter Bone and made him peddle back - "If I can stop you there - blowing off your foot may well be a negotiating strategy but it isn't one that fills industry with confidence".

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 22 June 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

i just read some Brooker cohort is going to direct a one-off ch4 brexit drama with Benny Cumbersome-thatch playing Dominic Cummings, sounds fucking worthless tbh!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:21 (five years ago) link

xp

reading FPBE types accounts of the encounter, they make it sound like Evan Davis was eloquently running rings around the aptly name troglodyte Bone, and doing a very good job. Not that I believe them much!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:38 (five years ago) link

Sometimes Evan has been much better at the alleged impartiality the BBC are supposed to practice than most of the other QT/Newsnight twats, but that really isn't saying much tbh.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link

I see Liam Fox is trotting out all his Negotiation With Jack Donaghy moves again.

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

If someone walks away from a normal negotiation then both parties are in the same position they were at the start. Literally everyone knows that manifestly isn't the case here.

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:53 (five years ago) link

xpost it runs too often to toothlessness imo

there are larger problems w Newsnight than Davis though. the viewing figures are low enough now that the government simply doesn't turn up to the show. it's been many months afaict. and it's had a ripple effect. they just never seem to have the people who really know what the hell is going on. they have all these peripheral types instead. structurally they appear to have abandoned even the faintest simulation of journalistic balance. they'll have three people all on the same side of an issue. and they continue to run these inane cultural packages at the end of the show. it's like the show is being run by morons.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

Privatise, privatise, privatise !

After the Tory remainer rebels have been whipped into line, they don't seem to have made any discernible difference to the Brexit dialogue at all. Yet more No Deal faux hardman talk from Fox doesn't make it seem like they've won any concessions at all.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:04 (five years ago) link

doesn't

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

I mean whatever private promises May made to get them in line about having a "meaningful vote" is completely undermined by Fox/BJ's shittalking.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/heathrow-expansion-third-runway-rich-benefits-business-a8412121.html

“Our research shows that demand for new runway capacity has nothing to do with business travel to emerging economies, or new domestic routes between London and Scotland. The drive to expand Heathrow is fundamentally about catering to the whims of an elite group of wealthy frequent leisure flyers, many of whom are travelling to second homes in Europe dozens of times a year."

lol this is a Civil Aviation Authority quote, not Corbz or McDonnell.

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link

FBPEs on the march:

Blairites saying the government has to listen to a demonstration. Classic https://t.co/ebTPlnDwR2

— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) June 23, 2018

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

this fuckin guy

topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

lol can't we give them the Isle of Wight or something and see how they get on?

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

6 months later... *camera pans across post-apocalyptic wasteland full of fluttering tatters of EU flags, local artisanal traders*

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

More tears:

Jeremy's in Jordan. When he should be representing his own people and supporting them, he decided to go to Za'atari as far away from #PeoplesVoteMarch as possible, but looking good as it's a refugee camp. But his own people need him as BREXIT is ruining the country. Hiding out! pic.twitter.com/EKf4hL3awe

— Janet #FBPE Starkey-Young #NO BREXIT (@ahimsaveganism) June 23, 2018

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

Really enjoying the world cup and didn't want to bring this nonsense up but y'know.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

they need a software update, or maybe some drugs!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

this is the passion and commitment that transformed the country under the Blair government

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

remember when Gordon Brown subsidized low paying employers thru the easily accessible tax credit scheme and poverty was wiped out for a generation

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

this is why we fight

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

give me middle class comfort under the EU or give me death

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

is that Nolan's version of Why We Fight?

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

Corbyn is just gone to a refugee camp to "look good" - is there now ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER this man is voted LEAVE?!?!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

he should at least prove he voted remain by being a flag waving vulgarian for a day!

calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

Why does Corbyn hate democracy?

Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

The real question is what did he have written on the back of his kagoule.

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

Foreign Secretary turns Trotskyite punk rocker, on page 8 of ⁦@Telegraph⁩. The fate of so many Old Etonians pic.twitter.com/nTc992Djdo

— Robert Peston (@Peston) June 23, 2018

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Anthony Barnett does a good job of making regulation really interesting here. the ongoing brexit gridlock has revealed how contentious and barely articulated our ideas about democracy and sovereignty are

https://www.opendemocracy.net/anthony-barnett/why-brexit-won-t-work-eu-is-about-regulation-not-sovereignty

ogmor, Monday, 25 June 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link

Will a steamroller do instead of a bulldozer? This fucking guy...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/wheres-boris-johnson-tory-dodges-12785465

womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Monday, 25 June 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link

This seems like it should be huger. When Farage "conceded" right out the bat on Brexit night it's pretty clear he already knew they'd likely won, and that his pals would make a shit-ton out of him misleading the market

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-25/brexit-big-short-how-pollsters-helped-hedge-funds-beat-the-crash

stet, Monday, 25 June 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

Haven't read the whole thing, but if Farage didn't personally financially benefit is there anything they can hang on him?

Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link

When the Conservative Party burns up upon entering the post-Brexit atmosphere, "fuck business" is going to be its epitaph.

Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link

I definitely called that "Farage Declaration" the morning after he made it.

I'd been hovering about buying some (bona-fide) euros for a trip we were making the day after, but when he said 'we've lost' and the pound value went up I was ah, get them tomorrow. Of course, by the morning the Euro price had gone up and I was all oh. It didn't matter greatly, it was about a tenner in it. But still, I guessed that if you happened to know, and passed the message onto Farage "Hey, it's been lost, tell everyone" wel.....

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

I'm more surprised it's taken them this long for the powers that be to clock it!

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

glad to see Boris, Unite and a third of the PLP all really feel for the convenience of wealthy frequent flyers with 2nd homes to fly to, many of whom in a paradoxical manner might live in some of the places like Richmond that will cop a bit of the extra air/noise pollution!

calzino, Monday, 25 June 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

The PM’s own constituency will also be affected.

Theresa May’s leaflet to her Maidenhead constituents: A third runway at Heathrow would be a “major blow... I will fight to stop the third runway.” pic.twitter.com/POtzTNKvXZ

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) June 25, 2018

gyac, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

The Labour MPs supporting this are exactly the same ones as you’d expect.

A bunch of them are a comfortable distance from anywhere directly affected, until the sea levels rise, but want more capacity for domestic flights connecting to Heathrow.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

Isn’t a lot of the opposition to Heathrow (besides obvious climate reasons) that it will draw away traffic from northern and midlands airports? The government’s own research says that Manchester, Birmingham and Leeds will be worst affected.

gyac, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

Depends where you are. Some airports not have direct connecting access to a major hub - Liverpool for example (Luciana Berger is one of the most vocal proponents) doesn’t connect anywhere useful if you want to go long-haul. The idea is that Liverpool, Bristol, etc, might get domestic connections to Heathrow if Heathrow has additional capacity.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link


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