Come anticipate animated Miles Morales in SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE with me

I don't want to start a new thread every time Sony comes up with a dumb new Spider-spinoff, so...hey, guys! They're making a Silk movie! And if you find yourself asking 'who the hell is Silk?', well, just wait until the general public gets wind of this announcement!

This is seriously one of the dumbest of the dumb ideas. I like the character fine but she's been around for all of like three years and I don't know if she's that well-known or popular. Oh, and her series was cancelled last year, so...

don’t forget the silver and black movie starring silver sable and black cat!

Who could forget that! (I had forgotten that.)

I'm looking forward to the inevitable Rocket Racer & Leap-Frog buddy comedy.

Sony’s “Spider-Man universe but without Spider-Man” is dumb as hell

Why does my phone auto hyphenate Spider-Man?

I dunno, but it's a real pain every time I'm trying to correspond with my good friend Murray Spiderman.

i missed this trailer when it came out earlier in the month but this continues to look strikingly beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Hbz2jLxvQ

guys

guys

SPIDER-HAM is gonna be in this

and nic cage is playing spider-man noir

hell yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg52up16eq0

not sure all the humour's going to hit but this really does look incredible

Cage:

There are multiple Spider-Men in different dimensions that are kind of colliding together. My character's Spider-Man Noir. He's really Peter Parker from the '30s. I tried to channel those noir films with (Humphrey) Bogart, and have those kinds of sounds that he might make with (James) Cagney, or Edward G. Robinson, that kind of way of talking. I tried to give the character that. It was a lot of fun. I think it should be quite funny. The movie definitely has a sense of humor, and that's a good thing because it's good for the whole family.

This looks fun and probably miles better than the Bendis comics

I guess the one upside of superhero movie saturation is that audiences don't need to be told the same origin story over and again now, and they can do more... comic-booky stories, I guess?

NB I'm pretending Venom doesn't exist for the sake of that argument

John Mulaney as Spider-Ham!

Early reviews of this thing seem to be almost uniformly stellar.

I don't go to the cinema because of my tinnitus but I might make an exception for this. Will bring space helmet.

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Because we should probably have a thread about the best-looking film I've seen this year.

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was awesome

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:33 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I loved this.
Just like The Lego Movie, even if it weren't an effective and sweet heart-warming funny film, just on a visual level it's an incredible work.

Was coming around to seeing it soon, now I'm completely sold thanks to this:

https://www.theroot.com/i-expected-to-hate-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-t-1831076221

Friend who's seen it specifically agreed with this sentence:

This movie is what would happen if you took all the action and complex plots from the live-action Marvel movies, added the heart, humor and relatability of a Pixar film, with all of the dialogue by the staff writers of Atlanta.

Also interesting:

http://remezcla.com/features/film/miles-morales-spider-man-spider-verse-spanish-dialogue/

Seen some promo thing about Peter Parker forgetting how awesome it is to be Spiderman. Having a girlfriend killed, being tortured, buried alive, having an eye plucked out, briefly becoming a villain+murderer, your identity and lifespan in doubt, becoming a wife beater and Joe Quezada trying to destroy your marriage will do that to a guy.

Manslaughtering your beloved wife with your radioactive jizz, too.

I thought this was soooooooo good.

This was terrific. Now that almost any superhero concept can be done live-action, it was great to see a smart film that really had to be an animated film.

Really liked this - and I have no previous interest in Spider-Man. The animation was spectacular and the colours often very beautiful, and the humour was fast and effective. Definitely worth seeing at the cinema.

Yep, excellent film. Takes full advantage of the medium and truly feels like a comic book on the screen. I saw Aquaman the night before which was such an inept mess comparatively

Enjoyed this. Great fun.
Liked the end graphics too. Very trippy.

& it does have an end of credits scene which I didn't quite get the context of.

BUt great fun, is it going to get sequels do you think?

A whole Marvel Noir film, & what else came out around the same time that series first did? Was it just the Mayflower one too?
Could see some mileage in the first, less in the latter.

But Miles is set up now.
Everybody else there had a previous incarnation in comics i think. Not sure about Spider girl or was that in a What If?
Not come across the Sp//dr and Peni Parker thing before though.

All of them come from the comics.

I was confused about something (spoilers?) .....

So Miles lives in a world where there already is a Spider-man, but then he gets bit by a *different* radioactive spider that's been wandering around? Where did the other spider come from? Nbd, I loved this, just was a bit confused.

For those who might not be aware, Spider-Verse was an event in the comics a couple years back which mashed together literally every incarnation of Spider-Man that ever existed, including all of the variations from the comics as well as, for instance, the one from the '67 Bakshi cartoon and the one from the Electric Company and the one from the Japanese show where he piloted a giant robot. It was kinda nuts and surprisingly more fun than disastrous.

(I can't speak to the movie I haven't seen yet, but in the Ultimate comics there was a Peter Parker Spider-Man who died and then, yes, Miles was later bitten by a different spider and became Spider-Man Mk II.)

This was fantastic - visually stunning, funny, sweet and practically bursting with ideas.

I watched this followed right after by Aquaman, which was such a letdown in comparison.

re the post credits scene: it (and pretty much the whole movie tbh) is a riff on this classic internet meme.

xpost Which is sort of what happens here. But where did the other spider come from, years after Peter Parker was first bitten? I thought the first spider was a one-off.

I thought all of the ending credits were tons of fun.

In the comics, some scientist was trying to reverse engineer Spidey's powers after his death and Miles was bitten by one of those experimental spiders. Guessing they probably didn't want to delve too deeply into the whole 'harvesting hero corpses for their superhuman abilities' thing in this film and just left it at 'hey look, another spider'.

I think I was wondering more about the bit leading up to that photo. In the internet meme like.

What a great, great film, can't say anything more than others have already. And man that design sense throughout, with the offprinted color suggestions and the like.

I approve of this news

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2018/12/20/christmas-songs-from-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-to-be-released/

this was a blast. tons and tons of fun. I guess if I had one thing I would have asked for it would have been more villains.

the one from the Japanese show where he piloted a giant robot.
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:09 PM

Is she really anything like that version of Spiderman? Wasn't that Spiderman a bit like the classic version, but just riding a huge robot?

Apparently there are 5 Japanese versions. I like to refer to the Ono/Ikegami/Hirai version as "the masturbating Spiderman that Marvel will never fully reprint". Apparently some Japanese readers much prefer this version. Even Rumiko Takahashi (Ranma, Urusei Yatsura, Inuyasha) said the American original was "too light hearted for my taste".

Ok in addition to being a good movie, this is undoubtedly the greatest technical achievement in computer animation to date.

my 4yo buddy's review: 'i like spider-man.' why, dude? 'he gets up'

was the female Doc Ock from the comics?

original to this film apparently, according to wikipedia

particular <3 to Kathryn Hahn, Liev Schreiber, Lily Tomlin in this v good voice cast.

"do animals talk in this universe?"

the trailers in front of this were a mix of very dire and samey children's animation about fuzzy animals with indistinguishable handclappy pop themes, intolerable Christian movies, and DC's Shazam, which struck me as at least not horribly misbegotten and possibly charming in a throwbacky kind of way

god, the crossturbation trailers actually had me reacting loudly in the theatre. we had two of them.

did you get the one with Topher Grace?

I wouldn't know

was the female Doc Ock from the comics?
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, December 24, 2018 5:33 PM

original to this film apparently, according to wikipedia
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, December 24, 2018 5:37 PM

There was one in the 90s but probably a different character.

GOD DAMN this was TREMENDOUS. this is EXACTLY what a comic book movie should be.

only niggle, which is common to pretty much all movies and tv now, is that everything happens so fast you forget what just came before. there's v little time to actually process anything. but my lord, the benday dots and shading and absurdly abstract climax - cars and buildings and trains and the brooklyn bridge all floating by in a swirling, howling matrix of dots and colours, all to be used as background and leverage and weapon. utterly insane.

my 7-y-o says, pausing over a burrito afterwards, "it was all about the promise he makes to peter parker." and i thought god damn, lord and miller would bottle that moment if they could and put it on their mantelpiece.

It really is that good. Kinda expect to see this being a year zero moment way more than anything around it -- just give it a few years.

i don't think I've ever seen anything like it, outside of loony tunes. the anarchy and physical delight of it.

It's still possible - from what I understand they were still tuning this up all the way to the release date - but Steinfeld recently said she hasn't even recorded voice lines for the third movie yet. there's still enough time, but...

I thought the voice work was done pretty early in an animated film so the visuals could match.

Yeah most of the voice work is done early but I wonder if some of the action sequences are worked on even earlier like they are in lice-action Marvel

That typo is so much better than what I was trying to say

Lice action baby

this movie was so good I don't even know what to say about it

love that Jeff Koons is now canon (or was this established in the comics?)

loved the venom cameo too

Saw this with my 9yo and my (comics ambivalent/averse) wife and we all came out loving it so much. We didn’t know it would be a cliffhanger so we had some whiplash right at the end but then we went out for some burgers and couldn’t stop talking about everything we loved. I’m shocked my son never got tired of the lengthy family emo scenes but he was rapt throughout.

I noticed something up was up when his mom's eyes were GREEN.

My wife noticed that too! I didn’t (we just saw it)

I thought the soundtrack was terrific. The animation too, obv.

My favorite part was the introduction of Indian Spider-Man, as it recaptured the fun & humor of the first movie (but I know this movie was a different thing, and OK not to have much more of that schtick). I also loved that sassy digital assistant gal.

As a Jessica Drew stan, I enjoyed that character (Issa Rae!)… even if she was kind of a jerk :/

I didn’t quite get why, if Miles being Spidey is an anomaly, why would his dad not dying also be an anomaly? Like why would his father be an important “Captain” in the “real” Spider-Man’s story in that universe? But I know there’s no point in questioning multiverse logic..

(I also didn’t get how that spider happened to get to Miles’s universe in the first place, but I assume I wasn’t paying close enough attention)

I assume there will be a 4K box set of this trilogy sometime next year after "Beyond..." is released and I'm already looking forward to that.

I think the first was rendered at 2K, I didn't bother buying the 4K disc for that reason. The second certainly needs 4K!

Amazing.

Pretty impressive (and detailed) list of comics references in the movie: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-easter-eggs-list-1235506838/

I think the new villain was responsible for the spider getting across, as part of the research for the Kingpin - the whole thing about him and Miles having the same origin.

Yeah, I thought that was it… but how did he happen to grab this random radioactive spider (that was meant to bite someone else)? Or was it more like – when you monkey around w/ the Spider-Verse, you’re gonna mess up something Spider-y… and this is the form it took.

My takeaway from the movie was that they explicitly grabbed the spider as part of testing the collider

the third one was represented by Donald Glover as the Prowler, who of course that's who he is in Homecoming

I assumed this was a capper to the Community S02e01 joke (which I regret to inform us all is from thirteen years ago)

Surprised Cindy Moon (Silk) wasn’t involved at all; she’s a pretty major modern Spider-character. Maybe b/c they’re developing her own thing…

the only disappointment for me was lack of Spider Pig

he was there very briefly near the end

I have a feeling we’ll have returning and new characters next time.

yeah the crew gwen was assembling at the end included all the spider-people from the first movie iirc

I was thinking that one reason they may shy away from Silk is that her story (in the comics, anyway) sort of goes against the movie's concept that every Spider-person needs to lose one or more ppl close to them as inspiration; and also that there can only apparently be one Spider-person per universe (although I don't know if the movie actually says that's a rule, or if I'm making it up). Her origin & background are also heavily tied up with the comics' version of the "Spider-Verse" and related concepts, which the movie doesn't f with.

All that said, they apparently got around the same points w/Jess Drew by just using an alternate version...

(The first two points, I mean... Jess's backstory in the comix isn't tied into the Spider-Verse, it's just weird as hell.)

Going thru the soundtrack album (Metro Boomin Presents Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Soundtrack from and Inspired by the Motion Picture)) is somehow a lot less pleasing than encountering/experiencing the music in the movie itself... but at least I was able to identify / add-to-playlist the track that plays throughout the opening Spider-Gwen sequence ("Self-Love," by Metro Boomin & Coi Leray). Its use was so perfect, I thought...

sounds like this thing was a nightmare to work on

According to people who worked on the sequel, Across the Spider-Verse, it’s because the working conditions required to produce such artistry are not sustainable. Multiple Across the Spider-Verse crew members — ranging from artists to production executives who have worked anywhere from five to a dozen years in the animation business — describe the process of making the the $150 million Sony project as uniquely arduous, involving a relentless kind of revisionism that compelled approximately 100 artists to flee the movie before its completion. Four of these crew members agreed to speak pseudonymously about the sprint to finish the movie three years into the sequel’s development and production, a period whose franticness they attribute to Lord’s management style — in particular, his seeming inability to conceptualize 3-D animation during the early planning stages and his preference to edit fully rendered work instead.

https://www.vulture.com/2023/06/spider-verse-animation-four-artists-on-making-the-sequel.html

also seems unlikely reading this that part two is gonna hit its release date

So apparently there are multiple (slightly) different versions of this in theatres now?

I only heard about a version with an updated sound mix (which I assumed we would’ve gotten at the late date we saw it, but some of the dialogue was pretty muddy).

I was wondering when people might start noticing… https://t.co/E6G9tUXmDE

— Andy! Leviton (@AlliterAndy) June 23, 2023

Saw this last night with the crusty sound mix. I enjoyed the film but damn if there ain’t a lot of it

Saw this yesterday, and it was great. I did feel like it dragged in places towards the end (too many action set-pieces of all things), but the emotional scenes are extremely potent.

The cliffhanger ending where Gwen's drum solo shows up on the soundtrack again was OMG, A+++++.

I wouldn't normally watch an 18-minute (or even 8-minute) YouTube video; but my kid showed me this, and it's really well done – the guy tackles a big plot element of the movie that didn't really make sense for me either, and goes for a grand No-Prize explanation that seems right on target (guess we'll find out in the third movie):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ESxmyDnTms

also seems unlikely reading this that part two is gonna hit its release date

I blame you, bg! j/k

“Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse,” the third film in the blockbuster Lord and Miller animated franchise, has been undated. It was meant to open March 29, 2024. Due to union’s work stoppage orders, the voice cast cannot complete dialogue recording in time for the spring opening, said a Sony source. A new date is expected in the coming weeks.

honestly, good, maybe they won't give the animators as many lashes this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ90GIuawAo

Navel gazing that I'm here for.

Like it's genuinely kinda beautiful.

That was surprisingly great!

Coming to Netflix on Halloween: https://deadline.com/2023/10/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-digital-release-date-netflix-1235575546/

Do we have a thread for discussing "Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU)," and specifically this new Madame Web movie? Thx

One of Dr. Morbius's many gifts to our community is making it impossible to find anything on the Jared Leto film.

Free-to-stream Spider-Verse short on YT tomorrow!

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/the-spider-within-a-spider-verse-story-when-and-where-to-stream-the-short-film/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGPpwFdE1Y

I still don't know what they thought, not releasing this movie in the relevant territories as Kilometers Morales.