People discuss Koko's understanding of language (of lack of) a surprising amount. As a vegan people bring up her inability to use language quite often - even though none of my beliefs rest on the claim that she did.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
Wait were ppl seriously arguing to you that since gorillas can’t acquire language, therefore being vegan is unreasonable?
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
Yeah - when you try to argue about sentience/consciousness/capacity to feel pain, people tend to blur the concepts together. So, people argue that because animals aren't 'intelligent', because they don't use 'language', they're not moral subjects.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
(I am delighted and amazed this is still going on.)
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
Remember when Farrah Fawcett died on the same day as Michael Jackson and no one talked about her? That happened to Charles Krauthammer with a gorilla.— Joe McAdam (@joemcadam) June 21, 2018
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
Wait Farrah Fawcet died?
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
huh. Proves that post right, I guess.
Aldous Huxley died the same day JFK got shot. Gotta plan these things, try to die on a slow news day.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
Lol that Tweet
― Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
There's a doc about Koko on BBC4 in a minute but fuck watching that big phoney
― Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
Can we start a dead people thread and leave this one to the dead animals.
― Jeff, Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
There was a dead crow outside my work this morning
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
I saw a pigeon fly into a window and probably die yesterday morning
― Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
Crows, now they are intelligent animals, not sure what their language skills are like though tbf.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
I know next to nothing about Fawcett but could people have talked at good length about her?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
Without repetition or hesitation?
― Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
People and apes.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
Fawcett was in Logan's Run, one of the finest sci-fi films of all time.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
NV - hopefully without resorting to the word "iconic" repeatedly.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
iconic nipple
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
What would Koko say if she saw us arguing like this? (trick question, she could not say anything, she did not understand language)
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
Aldous Huxley died the same day JFK got shot. Gotta plan these things, try to die on a slow news day.― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:53 (one hour ago)
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:53 (one hour ago)
CS Lewis died that day as well.
― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
Lewis and Huxley canceled each other out I guess
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
Yeah! I remember reading that! x-post. Don't know why I remember AH but not CSL who is arguably more famous.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
y'see you only use 10% of your brain, right?
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
well that explains dowd's comment on Logan's Run
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 June 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link
Ouch.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 24 June 2018 08:59 (five years ago) link
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/06/25/pawn-stars-richard-harrison-old-man-death/730665002/
― StanM, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/new-york-radio-legend-dan-ingram-dead-83
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link
Donald Hall, one of the last of the late-1920s-born big American poets.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06/24/donald-hall-former-poet-laureate/hGJudegZ2p6DkzIshiWvpO/story.html
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link
daaaan IN-gram
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 03:44 (five years ago) link
damn
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link
Jackson family patriarch Joe
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
Steve Soto, bass player for the Adolescents, etc. at 54.
https://www.ocweekly.com/steve-soto-of-the-adolescents-and-manic-hispanic-dead-at-54/
― nickn, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
Susan Ellison has asked me to announce the passing of writer Harlan Ellison, in his sleep, earlier today. “For a brief time I was here, and for a brief time, I mattered.”—HE, 1934-2018. Arrangements for a celebration of his life are pending.— Christine Valada (@mcvalada) June 28, 2018
Harlan Ellison, 1934-2018.
― Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
Kind of disappointed Ellison didn't go down mid-rant.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link
lol yeah going out peacefully seems v un-Harlan Ellison
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
I suppose he's worthy of an RIP, he had some good stuff
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
Even just for making sure Octavia E Butler got the boost she needed, he's a legend.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
But, as Elvis T has noted, a heavily flawed one beyond the usual kvetching:
https://www.adweek.com/galleycat/at-long-last-harlan-have-youleft-no-sense-of-decency/3778
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
rip harlan you cantankerous bastard
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
(also eurgh at that adweek story :( )
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44674652 Peter Firmin, creator of the Clangers, Bagpuss, Basil Brush, Ivor the Engine, Noggin the Nog...
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link
Noooooooo
― Jeff W, Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
Boom boom :(
― A Box of After Dinner Comics Shipped to Your House Each Month (seandalai), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
:(
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 July 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
RIP
― Visibly Over 25 (snoball), Sunday, 1 July 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
RIP Roy Carrhttps://www.clashmusic.com/news/music-writer-roy-carr-has-died
― Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link
Alan Longmuir, Bay City Rollers
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/bay-city-rollers-star-alan-longmuir-dies-aged-70-two-weeks-after-being-flown-home-to-uk-when-he-contracted-a-mystery-virus-while-on-holiday-in-mexico-with-his-wife/ar-AAzsFXY?ocid=ientp
― Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 09:12 (five years ago) link