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Yup. Repubs own the troop respecter vote, regardless of who you run.

Simon H., Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:45 (five years ago) link

It's not a perfect analogy but it reminds me of Republicans who think they can peel off lots of latino votes by running a Cuban candidate from an exiled resort millionaire family.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

I still want Tammy Duckworth tho

valorous wokelord (silby), Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:57 (five years ago) link

Pretty much, man alive.

Who among you is willing to see the glorious blinding sun against the backdrop of a blood-drenched sky?

Heart pounding. Adrenaline taken beyond the max limits.

What I see is something else. Do you guys really not follow everything closely, and remember it? Even as it disappears within hours... I can't blame you if you don't catch it fast enough.

We were all born in interesting times. Way beyond this shit. Guess that's fun, right? There's strange fucking shit going on, no different than the history we love to study.

Who said history stopped? They were idiots!

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

what

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

What, you think we were spared the "interesting times" of history? Make the most of it, man.

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:18 (five years ago) link

Who said history stopped? They were idiots!

It was some prof in his mid-thirties who instantly became the darling of the Republicans during the first Bush administration. His name mercifully escapes me.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

I'm just having a little fun here. But really, things feel fucking weird as shit right now, way beyond this stuff...

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:37 (five years ago) link

be more coherent please

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link

The answer is, too much beer, and too much time on Twitter. I just like throwing joy and adventure to the air, the world's miserable enough, friend.

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

People take shit way too seriously.

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

there's a whole world out there just begging for you to impose some fun on it. why us?

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 24 June 2018 04:00 (five years ago) link

No idea. That's the fun of the world, eh? Dunno what the fuck's going on, that's why I'm peacin' out of politics!

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link

Too muuch Twitter is the answer here. Yeesh! Curiosity killed the cat.

funzone76, Sunday, 24 June 2018 04:28 (five years ago) link

I really don't think it's an exaggeration to say @Ocasio2018's primary against Joe Crowley tomorrow has the potential to be as big or bigger as the 2014 Eric Cantor/Dave Brat race that remade the GOP

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) June 26, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

Only if she wins though, right? If she doesn’t it’ll be the next one down the line.

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

Well, if she loses, it'll be a fair sign there's still a ways to go.

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link

What if she loses by a bare margin? The measure of 'how far we have to go' is the margin of victory or loss, as I understand these things.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

Pelosi knows the odds are against her. She knows there may be nothing she can do to stop the Democrats from taking control of Congress. But she will keep fighting til the bitter end. pic.twitter.com/UPBXXdZR8C

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 26, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

The recent This American Life on Jeff Beals' campaign in NY-19 was done well, I thought it was sympathetic and fair to him while also doing a good job of explaining why the current system makes things difficult for candidates like him in ways that go beyond just the whims of the leadership of the party. He's not an AOC in terms of charisma and promise but he seems like a very smart guy and I like his politics.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

Hearing that Team @JoeCrowleyNY is taking our campaign posters, affixing them to trees, and then reporting them to @NYCSanitation to fine us.

They are trying to ratchet us into 0k worth of fines.

If you see anyone affixing our posters illegally, STOP THEM and take a photo.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@Ocasio2018) June 26, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

She is kinda full of shit.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

You sure about that, Fred?

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

better than being 100% full of shit like Fred

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

Here's an Ocasio volunteer personally reporting that there are Crowley flyers in place of all of the Ocasio flyers he hung:

https://www.facebook.com/eric.wimer?hc_ref=ARSQvBNVavymjZft0xliuSeHZVjpneUiAKILALkjSVJovFltO6PdG4Noizp-p3S8aSM&fref=nf

"Already today I’ve had Daniel Dromm lie to voters that Alexandria endorsed domestic abused Hiram Monserratte when there’s video of her saying the opposite, polling sites changed early in the morning, and team Joseph Crowley search for and rip down every poster I got up at 4:30am to tape up, replacing them with their own.

Keep it classy #TeamCrowley"

Megan Devir Did you see this in person..? Beyond disappointing to see someone like Councilmember Dromm endorse Crowley, let alone play dirty this way.
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Eric Wimer Sadly not but found mine gone and his in all the places where they were.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

What is your assessment of that person's level of full-of-shitness? How does it look from over there?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

I don't even know why that would be hard to believe, it's classic old school machine shit. I have personally witnessed it in other campaigns. It's not even a particularly high level of dirty trick.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this sounds like the same kind of 'He send a latina because she looked like me!' idiocy. 'Hearing that...' is rumor-mongering, plain and simple.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

Fred I'm glad Danish elections are completely free of dirty electioneering and machine influence

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

I'm still rooting for her, because fuck Crowley and fuck machine-politics, but she is conspiracy mongering for viral attention, and it's depressing if that's what it takes for the American left to win.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

lol it's not a conspiracy, what do you think machines do?

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

conspiracy-mongering would be "they are shaving millimeters off my chair, putting sugar in my gas tank, and leaving me ASMR voicemails"

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

but what's being questioned here is precisely your certainty that this is conspiracy-mongering versus the kind of thing a campaign (or even some overzealous undisciplined volunteers) would actually do. going "fuck machine politics" in the same breath as "it's implausible that this politician's underlings would do something mildly shady" is frankly just confusing.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

tearing down opponents' posters is like entry-level campaigning schtick, didn't you guys see Election.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

heck I've done it, I am not even a campaign volunteer

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

I'll just do it out of pique

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

She is not saying they are tearing down her posters, she is claiming that they are putting them elsewhere to get her campaign fined. Even though how does that hurt her election chances? And apparently nobody who has seen this very common practice has managed to take a photo of it?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

If I was hearing it was happening from my supporters I would probably treat it credulously too. She’s also asking people get actual evidence if they see it, which seems fair.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

It doesn't have to make sense to be plausible, and if it's a complete fabrication it's a plausible fabrication, which is also pretty typical campaigning. People will do any damn thing to win an election that they think they can get away with

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

x-post: Yeah, but then her next tweet was this:

.@NYCSanitation what can we do about potential cases of fraud?

We have provided strict printed instructions to all individuals and they are trained to be fully compliant.

What do we do about fraudulent actions?

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@Ocasio2018) June 26, 2018

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this sounds like the same kind of 'He send a latina because she looked like me!' idiocy. 'Hearing that...' is rumor-mongering, plain and simple.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:53 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Uhhh this but that is clearly without a doubt what happened. Take my word for it as someone who a) lives here and b) has worked on an NYC political campaign and has friends in politics.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

again Fred I'm glad things are so genteel where you live that the reality of our election systems is so implausible, it must be very calming

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

Mostly I'm baffled by the lefts inability to work a camera. Which isn't particularly calming, lol.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

And it IS disappointing for Dromm to endorse Crowley btw.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

You think canvassers have time ON ELECTION DAY to stand around with a camera in the shadows when they've been up since 4.30? Jesus. If they have so much free time why do you think they got up so early to begin with?

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

lol

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

is the essential pointless weirdness of a danish hobbyist holding forth on NYC parochial politics supposed to just sit in this thread unaddressed ok cool

goole, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

FP FP FP

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

is the essential pointless weirdness of a danish hobbyist holding forth on NYC parochial politics supposed to just sit in this thread unaddressed ok cool

― goole, 26. juni 2018 18:25 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This discussion was begun by noted NYC native Simon H, lol.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link


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