the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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They were supposed closing Tegel and Schonefeld and replacing it with a new airport, Btandenberg. Budgeted at £2.3 billion and scheduled to open in 2011 it remains nowhere near completion and has cost £10.1 billion so far.

― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Monday, 25 June 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, we are so doomed.

i would have paid any money for connecting flights from heathrow to an airport near sheffield and an airport in the southwest. they existed, but only if we spent 8 hours waiting at the airport (and in one case change terminal). getting from heathrow to cities not directly accessible from paddington is not easy right now. transportation policy should obviously not be designed to make my life easier (or SHOULD it), but if the goal is to build up regional economies, more domestic flights makes sense to me. not clear a 3rd runway would do that of course.

So you can go on the tube to Paddington or St Pancras and get from there to Bristol or Sheffield direct?

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Anyway, construction starts in 2021? If we get a Labour Left government or Brexit destroys the economy I am guessing this could be put on hold?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:44 (five years ago) link

I don't think it will happen at any rate.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link

This seems like the kind of big-ticket infrastructure project that they can semi-plausibly argue makes Britain more competitive in a brave new Brexit world but has the short term benefit of cushioning the inevitable job losses in construction, engineering, etc, etc. Unless Labour gets in, I can’t see a tanking economy putting it on hold.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

what does this all mean for HS2?

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link

and I guess if we get the worst of Brexit it would difficult for any new Administration to stop this. Unless the UK was hit by a major climate change type event, of course.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

Only 19% believe May's claim 'Brexit dividend' will largely fund extra £20bn for NHS, Guardian/ICM poll suggests - https://t.co/isMaV30Tbv pic.twitter.com/71OXUhJogB

— AndrewSparrow (@AndrewSparrow) June 26, 2018

Nearly half of ppl polled expect some sort of Brexit dividend oh my days

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

Polls like that are the height of bullshit in all directions tho. How many of the respondents have any meaningful knowledge of government finances? Their opinions are worthless.

Swedes and Löw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

I'd say this is the kind of thing holding up the Tory vote. Until its actually seen to not happen.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

Yeah sorry I guess the point is a snapshot of what people believe rather than the tenuous reasons for holding those beliefs

Swedes and Löw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

last time I had an iPSOS/Mori tool at my door I deliberately started giving random answers to knack up his data when I took a dislike to him. I'm just totally out of control sometimes!

calzino, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

How many of the respondents have any meaningful knowledge of government finances? Their opinions are worthless.

Good thing George Osborne constantly indulged in false and ludicrous comparisons like “maxing out the nation’s credit card” then!

This is just people desperate to believe - they’re different from the Leave voters previously recorded as saying “we should leave even if I/my family suffer job loss as a result”. Don’t know if it makes them easier to reach or more difficult though.

gyac, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

hellworld continues to deliver

I’d like to welcome @PrisonPlanet, Sargon of Akkad, @CountDankulaTV and Milo Yiannopoulos to UKIP. I look forward to them developing truly dank memes that will trigger lefty luvvies like @GaryLineker, @mrjamesob and their politically correct establishment chums. Onwards! pic.twitter.com/OI1bIJQ9Qz

— Neil Hamilton AC/AM (@NeilUKIP) June 26, 2018

topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

No.

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

and yet... yes

topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

I

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

...

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

i'd heard abt them joining but this tweet is the finisher

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

nothing more wearisomely myopic and self-absorbed than apocalyptic thinking, but

these are the end times

ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link

End times for UKIP, for sure.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

looks like Milo and Dankula were unable to make the photoshoot, but

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgaLKmDWsAA2lYW.jpg

soref, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

surely Hamilton's PA dropping "dank memes" can only alienate the amoral
pate me bourgeois youth wing of the alt right

Cueva mutilation (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

Imagine how vile you have to be to have invited Mussolini’s granddaughter to Britain and supported apartheid - and yet still be despised by both Nigel Farage and Arron Banks.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

shame he didn't drop a donk instead xp

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

Just imagining Brain Force Max getting on QT in the UKIP chair. Fuck everything.

stet, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

Neil Hamilton outed as Worst Blobby

nashwan, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

Meanwhile, Tony’s back and he’s got legitimate concerns. Again.


Brexit has become a metaphor for the debate around globalisation. The only way out of the cul-de-sac of populism is to understand that the case for globalisation will not succeed unless we deal with the underlying grievances of that part of the population for whom globalisation holds more fear than hope.
Europe and Britain could strike a bargain which would see Europe reforming, which the European people plainly by their votes are demanding, and Britain staying in such a Europe.
For Europe as well as for Britain this means dealing with the issue of immigration decisively.

The full mess is here: https://institute.global/news/globalisation-brexit-and-transatlantic-alliance

gyac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

Milo responded to a question about why he was joining UKIP by saying he looked forward to seeing journalists gunned down in the street and, the day before, sent $14.88 via PayPal to a Jewish writer so I expect this meeting of two of Britain’s most desperate brands to last about a week before he is kicked out.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

Xp, talking of desperate brands, etc.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

unexplored synergy?

gyac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

I don't even know - I do know - why Blair uses his "will of the people" fig leaf, which has fuck all to do with his political or personal philosophy. His contempt for everybody who isn't like him is boundless.

Cueva mutilation (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

It honestly must kill him that nearly 13m people voted for a Labour Party led by someone he considered deselecting for disloyalty.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgr2d3MWAAAg6f5.jpg

this is very bad, but it made me lol!

calzino, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link

Noam Chomsky is looking well these days.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:35 (five years ago) link

Pitbull might need some French lessons!

calzino, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:46 (five years ago) link

that is good not bad

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:03 (five years ago) link

torn because i hate Chumsky but i love Pitbull

Kroos on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link

My problem is I hate Chomsky but I love Saddam Hussein and don't like to see my main man clowned!

calzino, Thursday, 28 June 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

In all my life, I have never felt so close to Danny Dyer. https://t.co/LyjACmaZPu

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) June 28, 2018

Danny Dyer getting ready to "iron out" Cameron, pretty funny tbh.

calzino, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

very enjoyably irrepressible and effusive use of a "Twat!" at the end, albeit from that fucking cretin!

calzino, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

Danny Dyer is one of the few people that David Cameron compares favourably to, in fairness.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

No.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2018 05:38 (five years ago) link

Danny Dyer’s Who Do You Think You Are? episode is still one of the top things on British telly of the past few years.

suzy, Friday, 29 June 2018 07:12 (five years ago) link

I liked the John Hurt one where his contrived luvvie affections for "back home" in the emerald isle were mercilessly crushed as he was revealed to be about 1000% Yorkshire pud, and he seriously looked like he was going to cry!

calzino, Friday, 29 June 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link

DD “I might have to treat meself to a ruff!”

suzy, Friday, 29 June 2018 07:57 (five years ago) link

Tonight I will be on the Gadget show on Channel 5 @ 8 o Clock. If you're interested.......enjoy....... If not......well.....get fucked..x

— Danny Dyer (@MrDDyer) June 3, 2013

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:34 (five years ago) link

Danny Dyer is one of the many people that compare favourably to Piers Morgan.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

the convicted murderers he regularly exploits compare favourably to Piers Morgan,

Kroos on first (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 June 2018 10:19 (five years ago) link

Had there ever been someone called Piers who wasn't a total and utter prick?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 29 June 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

Is that any way to talk about Jeremy Corbyn's brother?

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link

FPd Farrell for that appalling prejudice

ogmor, Friday, 29 June 2018 10:58 (five years ago) link


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