Democratic (Party) Direction

lol it's not a conspiracy, what do you think machines do?

conspiracy-mongering would be "they are shaving millimeters off my chair, putting sugar in my gas tank, and leaving me ASMR voicemails"

but what's being questioned here is precisely your certainty that this is conspiracy-mongering versus the kind of thing a campaign (or even some overzealous undisciplined volunteers) would actually do. going "fuck machine politics" in the same breath as "it's implausible that this politician's underlings would do something mildly shady" is frankly just confusing.

tearing down opponents' posters is like entry-level campaigning schtick, didn't you guys see Election.

heck I've done it, I am not even a campaign volunteer

I'll just do it out of pique

She is not saying they are tearing down her posters, she is claiming that they are putting them elsewhere to get her campaign fined. Even though how does that hurt her election chances? And apparently nobody who has seen this very common practice has managed to take a photo of it?

If I was hearing it was happening from my supporters I would probably treat it credulously too. She’s also asking people get actual evidence if they see it, which seems fair.

It doesn't have to make sense to be plausible, and if it's a complete fabrication it's a plausible fabrication, which is also pretty typical campaigning. People will do any damn thing to win an election that they think they can get away with

x-post: Yeah, but then her next tweet was this:

.@NYCSanitation what can we do about potential cases of fraud?

We have provided strict printed instructions to all individuals and they are trained to be fully compliant.

What do we do about fraudulent actions?

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@Ocasio2018) June 26, 2018

Yeah, this sounds like the same kind of 'He send a latina because she looked like me!' idiocy. 'Hearing that...' is rumor-mongering, plain and simple.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:53 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Uhhh this but that is clearly without a doubt what happened. Take my word for it as someone who a) lives here and b) has worked on an NYC political campaign and has friends in politics.

again Fred I'm glad things are so genteel where you live that the reality of our election systems is so implausible, it must be very calming

Mostly I'm baffled by the lefts inability to work a camera. Which isn't particularly calming, lol.

And it IS disappointing for Dromm to endorse Crowley btw.

You think canvassers have time ON ELECTION DAY to stand around with a camera in the shadows when they've been up since 4.30? Jesus. If they have so much free time why do you think they got up so early to begin with?

lol

is the essential pointless weirdness of a danish hobbyist holding forth on NYC parochial politics supposed to just sit in this thread unaddressed ok cool

FP FP FP

is the essential pointless weirdness of a danish hobbyist holding forth on NYC parochial politics supposed to just sit in this thread unaddressed ok cool

― goole, 26. juni 2018 18:25 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This discussion was begun by noted NYC native Simon H, lol.

you both suck tbf

Xxxpost well NYC parochial politics and this one congressional race dominating the dem party thread to this degree is arguably as weird.

lmao. jfc. pic.twitter.com/N6GnesVF70

— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) June 26, 2018

You think canvassers have time ON ELECTION DAY to stand around with a camera in the shadows when they've been up since 4.30? Jesus. If they have so much free time why do you think they got up so early to begin with?

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:22 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

― Frederik B, Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:24 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So you've never done GOTV work then and are utterly fucking clueless, thanks for clearing that up Fred.

NP, if you don't get why this race has, if nothing else, immense symbolic value (not only due to the candidates but also the timing) to a lot of people - not just yr Greenwald types - I don't know what to tell you

also, settling for "perfectly fine" reps in "safe" districts has helped create the present shitstorm

XPost That’s fine I get that but I rank both this and the New York governor’s race beneath the imperative to win back congress in the midterms and pick up senate seats.

I mean, this is TODAY and the Nixon race involves a celebrity who (correctly) called ICE a terrorist organization, do you really expect not to hear lots about them

speaking of which, it's looking like she pulled it off

Ocasio-Cortez leads Crowley 58-41 with just over half of precincts reporting https://t.co/3xq0NHfE2r

— Sarah Jones (@onesarahjones) June 27, 2018

Right now, Ocasio-Cortez is LEADING in Queens County — where Crowley is the chairman of the Democratic Party pic.twitter.com/w7CPiw4Kw7

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) June 27, 2018

Omfg

Woah this pretty cool. Seriously

he spent 3 million bucks lol

a national Democratic strategist told me one week ago that #NY14 was considered "not at all as a competitive primary race."

— J.D. Durkin (@jiveDurkey) June 27, 2018

awesome

let's celebrate this watershed moment by banning Fred

Are there numbers on what she spent/raised? The ones on open secrets say her total was only 300k, hard to believe that.

only figures I could pull up on a whim:

73% of Ocasio-Cortez's donations were "small," or under https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/101103964570084966500.

Just 1.7% of Crowley's donations were under https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/101103964570084966500.

Wow. pic.twitter.com/TINq26AG97

— Alex Kotch 🔥 (@alexkotch) June 25, 2018

ah hell, that wasn't the one I meant to share. Anyway, pretty sure the ~300k figure is accurate.

Xpost Sir, I believe Fred (ultimately) endorsed her so this is a unifying moment tragically undercut by you. You can make it up by ranking your favorite Alan Dwan blu-rays however.

AP calls it.

i believe that endorsement made the difference xp

Wonder how Cuomo's feeling tonight

Steve Kornacki: one of the all-time great primary shockers

"I am a Latina outsider" - Prince Andy tomorrow

xp

looool

sorry to spam but look at this picture

“We meet a machine with a movement. That is what we have done today.” @Ocasio2018 looks up at @NY1 screen and realizes how big her lead is. #NY14 pic.twitter.com/SFSLQPqTXP

— Pat Kiernan (@patkiernan) June 27, 2018

I'm going to show you just who @Ocasio2018, Justice Democrats, and DSA beat tonight. it isn't @JoeCrowleyNY. It's the most powerful people in America. Here are Crowley donors Sheryl Sandberg, Sean Parker, Google NET Pac, and Facebook's PAC. pic.twitter.com/tqkKYhqSLm

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) June 27, 2018

Aww

If Crowley loses Andrew Cuomo and New York Democrats will respond with a two-pronged approach: a) single-payer is a good idea now and b) voter ID law but the only acceptable ID is an NYPD parking placard

— Official Centrism (@pareene) June 27, 2018

Sean McElwee feeling extra good tonight (peep the date)

I'm going to be roasted endlessly for this, but I don't care: if the Democratic Party has a Cantor moment, it will occur in NY-14.

— overton window mover (@SeanMcElwee) May 7, 2018

Guys listen, I have some important post mortem analysis. First of all, this just proves that the so called Bernie wing is not ready for prime time. All that reliance on viral videos with no on the ground organization. Really, I like her and I hope she wins but this is not how you run a campaign. Welcome to the big leagues hon.