Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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his book is very good!!!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

The interviews I've seen so far don't seem super new/insightful to me if you've already read How We Get Free, which this seems to derive a lot from, but I'm happy to see more of that sort of analysis kicking around

New ep is predictably bifurcated into "joy" and "despair" halves, though Matt's "Hey, hey LBJ...how ya doin', buddy?" bit was a good one

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

His interviews draw a lot on that book, but he’s able to add to that.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

note the date

Can't wait to built a neo-Nazi fanbase that commits pogroms on my order but then reveal that I was doing irony the whole time and it's okay.

— Matt Christman (@cushbomb) September 3, 2016

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

Matt’s been right a few times

flappy bird, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

With Nostradamus predictions

flappy bird, Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

Who's claiming irony now?

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

the bad milo

Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

and speaking of prophecy

Nazi strategy: "Leftists will recognize dog whistles and know we're crypto, but normies won't listen to them." pic.twitter.com/YSkLp1J95C

— Natalie Wynn (@ContraPoints) August 13, 2017

Simon H., Friday, 29 June 2018 00:27 (five years ago) link

New double-length Mic Dicta on the Supreme Court and, uh, JBP's lawsuit is likely worth a listen.

https://soundcloud.com/micdicta/episode-17-the-truth-is-looking-straight-at-you#t=0:00

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 July 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link

the twin attack of virgil's wonksplaining and matt's frustrated rants is too much sometimes

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

Lmfao at the picture for the new premium episode

flappy bird, Friday, 6 July 2018 07:24 (five years ago) link

who would have thought that the guy on this show to say "before we begin, i have a few cuhveets" would be virgil and not will

difficult listening hour, Friday, 6 July 2018 08:27 (five years ago) link

apparently that was a callback to a previous Felix mispronunciation but thankfully I don't recall that level of minutiae

Simon H., Friday, 6 July 2018 11:44 (five years ago) link

Are there any lefty podcasts that talk about good things that are happening or say "here's how we can win"? Because the despair is starting to feel too real for me.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 6 July 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

The best source for that is probably The Dig and other pods that dig into left electoral strategy and stuff like that - by nature a lot more wonky/dry, though. Trillbillies is generally pretty good at keeping the tone light, plus added regional charm.

Simon H., Friday, 6 July 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

The Dig is heavy. The Trillbillies are definitely one place I turn when everything is too much.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 6 July 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

I like to check in with Street Fight now and again for this too, though it's a little too casual/digressive for my tastes

Simon H., Friday, 6 July 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link

Street Fight I only listen to the call-in shows, I love hearing people's shitty job stories.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 6 July 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

The call ins are too long. One hour a week is my Street Fight limit.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 6 July 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

as much as the Chapo crowd wants to portray them as Dockers-wearing mayo fuckboys, imo the Pod Save guys are fairly progressive in the grand scheme of things. maybe they're just savvy at reading the tea leaves. i mean, obviously they're gonna ride for Barry O 'til they die but it's not often that I hear them say something that sounds like equivocating bullshit (I mean, it DOES happen, but not as much as some would like you believe). anyway, my point is that they're obviously not despairing either.

evol j, Friday, 6 July 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

I suspect the personal animus mostly stems from Levitt (sp?) editing out most of Felix's appearance at the podfest thing

Simon H., Friday, 6 July 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

The Struggle Session guys and other left Twitter people making fun of those guys for looking dorky I guess at last weekend’s protest come across like assholes who don’t care about anything.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 6 July 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

I suspect the personal animus mostly stems from Levitt (sp?) editing out most of Felix's appearance at the podfest thing

― Simon H., Friday, July 6, 2018 5:07 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol love this pod drama

flopson, Friday, 6 July 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

any time I dip into this thread I get the inescapable feeling that this is the modern equivalent of 70s/80s talk radio, and any disputes between "crews" are akin to Dr. Dean Edell and Dr. Laura getting into a slap fight

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 July 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

Sam Seder vs. Jimmy Dore is my favorite podfeud

President Keyes, Friday, 6 July 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

Bit more of an ideological component here

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 6 July 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

the twin attack of virgil's wonksplaining and matt's frustrated rants is too much sometimes

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:16 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh boy you’re not liking today’s, huh

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 6 July 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

Virgil on today’s Majority Report btw

President Keyes, Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

for anyone who's been wanting them to go in on republican sickos instead of centrist losers, this week is for you. (also contains what is to date their only convincing pitch for actually buying the book)

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 12:11 (five years ago) link

matt sounds gacked up in this one

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 July 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

apparently they're trying to arrange to have Boots Riley on, which would rule.

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

yeah, that movie seems way up their alley

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

I gave them another shot recently because they had a couple of guests I already like (David Roth, Libby Watson) and I'm enjoying it a lot more than when I first tried it out in early 2017. you're probably right about the shift from bashing centrists to bashing the GOP. I can appreciate the former up to a point, but when it becomes your primary animating principle it's just pathetic and annoying. early 2017 was not really a time when I was super-enthused to listen to three dudes endlessly dunking on Hillary Clinton.

evol j, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

congrats to the Red Scare ladies on coming up with the single least appealing guest/topic combo possible (The Abortion Episode ft. Liz Bruening) for their latest premium ep

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

awooooo

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 9 July 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

appreciated the one where they were talking about alexandria o-c's victory and how ridiculous it is that right-wing media has been representing her platform more honestly than the democrats

mh, Monday, 9 July 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

I do like the dynamic of their podcast but the increasing number of o_O takes (like the drive-by quip about burqas) is edging me towards unsubscribing

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

matt sounds gacked up in this one


Check the photo for the most recent premium ep

flappy bird, Monday, 9 July 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

i recently bit the bullet and became a 'patreon', any like top 5 recommendations? i know so much of it is focused on very specific twitter fights and super specific news that's dated at this point so maybe something a bit more encompassing?

global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 July 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

The Ross Douthat readings (I can't remember if they were subscriber only?) are real classics.

ryan, Monday, 9 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

yes, those are always the ones I point people to first

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 9 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

As much as you may not want to listen to "dated" eps, a lot of their election eps were very good imo, like the ones where they discussed their convention visits

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 9 July 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

the Rod Dreher ones are fun too. tbh the last few premium eps have been really strong; they've been on a bit of a roll lately.

I bit the bullet and listened to the Red Scare abortion episode - some of it was fair (I also bristled at the potential insensitivity Tim Faust's "Abortion is Rad" shirts) but I wished they'd pushed back more on Bruening's typically elusive non-answer on how "non-emergency" abortions would be handled.

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

Someone who's actually done coke will need to let me know if that's definitely not just kosher salt

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

it’s coke

flappy bird, Monday, 9 July 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

Lines seem much bigger on TV, I assume if they were just using salt they’d be more extravagant.

devops mom (silby), Monday, 9 July 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

those are pretty small lines

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 9 July 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

you'd think they could afford more cocaine than that

devops mom (silby), Monday, 9 July 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link


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