It’s not though! It’s not remotely startling, covfefe. Can we make the July thread into less of a mess of dumbfoundedness at the “world burning down?” Duh, of course it is. To the extent our systems allow it to. Also if you talk about trump winning re-election please punch yourself in the genitalia Where are the 1987 Korea style protests demanding direct popular elections?
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
wrt anyone using Iraq as a frame of reference for “this is the deep state trying to undermine the president’s peace plan” theories
Brief, remedial class on the drive to war in Iraq: The invasion was pushed by political appointees in the Bush admin who manipulated raw intelligence, previously discounted by analysts, and created a whole new intelligence office to out-hawk what they viewed as a "liberal" CIA.— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
"The agency, called the Office of Special Plans (OSP), was set up by the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to second-guess CIA information." https://t.co/HyZgVjygqH— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
Meanwhile, as McClatchy reported in 2002, anonymous "U.S. intelligence officials said evidence actually suggested that Saddam had been careful to keep al Qaida at arms' length to avoid giving Bush an excuse to invade Iraq." https://t.co/kS34X66Lfy— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
But some people believed the White House, seeing the CIA as a den of liberals determined to undermine an elected president's foreign policy.— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) July 1, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
If the IC had been as bad and deceitful as Greenwald/Simon says, that Colin Powell presentation would have been a lot more impressive.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
I wasn't trying to make a direct Iraq parallel fwiw - my distrust of / wariness towards US intelligence services is more general.
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
We can tell. Your aptitude as a generalist is undisputed
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
Do we have a July thread?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 1 July 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
generalists are always pushing for wariness
― Evan, Sunday, 1 July 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
is there no july thread because no one can decide on a title
― maura, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
“Goodlatte 2: DPRK Nuke-a-Dupe”
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
US Politics July 2018: Let's Eat Grandma
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
Among contenders upthread were "womp womp", "We Got Space Force" and "I REALLY DON'T CARE. DO U?" of which the latter is the most nihilistically apposite.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
i really don't careforce 1
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link
I'm down with the third option MatthewK presented
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 July 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link
Shall I
Option 3 for sure.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
marches lighter on millenials are marches heavier on voters, and so a good thing.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link
The new name has always been a surprise.
Just sayin.
― Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link
US Politics, July 2018: FART
Surprise!!
― Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2018 10:49 (five years ago) link