rolling trump-russian collusion

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i read this as "i burned a person of interest to the matter. i wont burn them publicly yet, but here is some proof i was in contact with a person of interest. i am scared. if anything happens to me, here is a trail to the person i burned to the fbi. i have little faith that ultimately the fbi can protect me under this administration, or will necessarily investigate fully due to circumstances. public notice might help so here."

it's not very clear, that's a...sea of inferences by me?

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

curious who it is.. at first I was thinking roger stone but not sure he would talk about 1 humint ratings

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

its Greenwald. I can't imagine it would be anyone else

the whole thing is written in a confusing way but I think the gist is that someone - most likely a journalist - had inside info about Flynn's plan to make good on (presumably) quid pro quo arrangements immediately after the election was called, and wound up going to the FBI about it. coming from Wheeler (who was always skeptical of this whole thing) this sounds like...a pretty big deal??

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

It’s probably not Greenwald because he hasn’t commented on it yet and has been posting about Louise Mensch all day.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

Also it seems more like a roger stone character is more likely to present connections to other actors/bad actors who might possibly be threatening to a journo.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

Someone asked if the person was a journalist and she said “no”

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

it’s quintuple-agent carter page obv

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

not journo could still be greenwald then amirite xp

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

It’s probably not Greenwald because he hasn’t commented on it yet and has been posting about Louise Mensch all day.

Reading this sentence, I felt the void open up below me and there's nothing but shouting stupidity in there.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

hey what do you know, Trump is planning to meet with Putin one-on-one, with no aids or note takers or, you know, witnesses.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

Two Scoops doesn't want anyone to see Putin kiss him on the belly, like a kitten

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

Honestly, among the most damning and suspicious things is that he has no idiotic nickname for Putin.

— Emily Nussbaum (@emilynussbaum) July 12, 2018

fair

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

Or Avenatti!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

yea Trump's silence on Avenatti and the whole Stormy situation is pretty telling to me

frogbs, Thursday, 12 July 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

“I don’t think in the history of the department there’s ever been anybody so ill-prepared” for this job, says Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), who has been one of the chief agitators against Benczkowski’s nomination. He says Benczkowski has “barely set foot in a courtroom.” (Benczkowski has never prosecuted a case.) He continues, “So if the obvious reason for why you’d want him there is not evident, then you have to look for less obvious reasons.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/brian-benczkowski-justice-department-nominee-with-russia-ties-confirmation/

our "conservative" republican friends are such traditionalists and strict originalists that when they ram a candidate through with zero relevant experiences, it can only be because freedom, liberty, tax cuts, and small government. free paul manafort! fire rosenstein! mire mueller! lock strzok up!!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 July 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

these comments help clarify the wheeler thing quite a bit

Trip says:
July 3, 2018 at 10:53 am
I’m confused (what else is new, amirite?). You mention that this person is lying, but then state that the text was, in essence, corroborated. So it’s not clear my excessive-heat fogged out brain what the lie is. Was it about the person’s true intentions? It’s weird to share that type of info that is kind of true and then spread disinformation. I might have an inkling about the source, but it would only be speculation, which I’m not gonna share.

Be safe. Holy shit, life comes at you fast.


dc says:
July 3, 2018 at 11:41 am
She indicated in a twitter post that the text correctly predicted what happened, and implied that the person told lies about other subjects. Marcy can correct me if I am wrong, but thought I would help out to close the loop on this question.

i'm still not quite sure how a journalist could play a 'significant role' in this though? as she says:

“a person whom I had come to believe had played a significant role in the Russian election attack on the US”.

unless she just means running interference over the media but there's plenty of that to go around as it is

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

like a ‘journalistic telationship’ doesn’t mean the person is a journalist, it’s more that she’s burning a source

idk i’m still a little confused. seems like a bit of well-thought out ass-covering for a very specific situation she anticipates playing out further

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

still have to listen, but pertinent:

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/why-reporter-turned-in-source/

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

okay this interview is way better than her post, listen to it

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

strongly insinuates greenwald

global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

As the source? Huh?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

skip to 8:30

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

eh frankly i'm not terribly smart so don't listen to me. it still sounds like an actor in the campaign, idk. stone also admitted he was the unnamed collaborator in the indictment which was like pointing out that the sky is blue

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link

Seeing people link old articles about the Podesta hacks from the election is infuriating. This one might be the worst, if only because it includes a Clinton operative stating everything we now know to be fact, and being completely dismissed:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/10/if-the-russians-are-really-meddling-in-our-electio.html

Frederik B, Monday, 16 July 2018 07:51 (five years ago) link

Good point, we should have his tax returns.

But you know who likely has his tax returns? Mueller.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

One of the two authors of that Paste article (H.A. Goodman who pushed some bizarre “Bernie can still win this” theories) has since become an open and unapologetic Trump supporter and the other (Walker Bragman) wrote the “Liberal case for Trump” piece for Salon during the election.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

Maybe it’s healthy to acknowledge that horseshoe theory is at least a little bit real.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

HA Goodman has always been the worst kind of troll, he was disgusting during the primaries in 16 and it was clear he was in it more for the followers than the movement

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Yeah dragging up a paste magazine piece by those two is some pretty impressive cherry picking. IIRC the main reason anybody read that in the first place was because people were making fun of tweedle-dee & -dum.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

nastya rybka has said that she’s only going to give her tapes to.... oleg deripaska, in exchange for “a date and flowers.”

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/594g7n/exclusive-sex-huntress-says-she-wont-give-us-officials-secret-tapes-about-russian-election-meddling

maura, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

man i wish my nickname was 'sex huntress'

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

trump temptress

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

i keep thinking 'reality is broken' so its only fitting that we're seeing calls to free reality winner imo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

when i see her name in a sentence it just looks like broken grammar to me, until i remember "that's a person!"

Hunt3r, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link

Reality Winner being the only person thus far to go to jail over all this pretty much sums up where America is at right now

frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

manafort is in jail awaiting trial fyi

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

but not for this specifically, right? wasn't he indicted on 400 separate crimes?

frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

here’s an interesting tweet from 2016 about maria butina meeting with “nra member” trump

Мария Бутина сейчас в США. Пишет мне, что Д.Трамп (член NRA) реально за сотрудничество с Россией. https://t.co/enLxGEeCaX

— А.П. Торшин (@torshin_ru) February 14, 2016

maura, Friday, 20 July 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

*taps screen* is this thing broken?

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Friday, 20 July 2018 09:16 (five years ago) link

if you click through you can translate jt

maura, Friday, 20 July 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/07/russian-electoral-intervention-strategic-genius-something-else

This last observation leads me to the second point. My strong sense, based on what we know so far, is that Moscow needed convincing to pivot toward going “all in” on a Trump victory. This, by the way, is the context for existing evidence of collusion:. Various individuals affiliated with the Trump campaign tried to secure Russian support. Trump himself signaled in public that he was amenable to striking a partnership.


...

In this light, Moscow’s decision to back Trump was an enormous gamble—and it looks more like a desperate ‘Hail Mary’ than a strategically savvy decision. Sometimes, leaders make bad choices that nonetheless work out well. For this one to work out comes down to a horse-race: Can Trump do enough damage to American power, leadership, and influence before he’s gone? Can he lock-in a Republican shift against NATO and for Russia by 2020 or 2024? Will that be enough if the next President wants payback?

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 July 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

"Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump, including the fact that we had a very nasty & contentious business relationship, I turned him down to head the FBI (one day before appointment as S.C.) & Comey is his close friend.."

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 29 July 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

Lotta Diet Coke Thoughts in today's Tweets...

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

rolling remunerative trump-kremlin conspiracy

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/russian-tv-host-features-trump-fans-id-rather-a-russian-than-a-democrat-shirt

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 6 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

The only questions that remain are whether the collusion that took place constituted criminally liable conspiracy, whether obstruction of justice occurred to cover up any collusion or conspiracy, and how many members of “Trump Incorporated” attempted to defraud the government by laundering and concealing the movement of money into their pockets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/opinion/john-brennan-trump-russia-collusion-security-clearance.html

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 August 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link

August 16, 2018

STATEMENT FROM FORMER SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS

As former senior intelligence officials, we feel compelled to respond in the wake of the ill-considered and unprecedented remarks and actions by the White House regarding the removal of John Brennan’s security clearances. We know John to be an enormously talented, capable, and patriotic individual who devoted his adult life to the service of this nation. Insinuations and allegations of wrongdoing on the part of Brennan while in office are baseless. Since leaving government service John has chosen to speak out sharply regarding what he sees as threats to our national security. Some of the undersigned have done so as well. Others among us have elected to take a different course and be more circumspect in our public pronouncements. Regardless, we all agree that the president’s action regarding John Brennan and the threats of similar action against other former officials has nothing to do with who should and should not hold security clearances – and everything to do with an attempt to stifle free speech. You don’t have to agree with what John Brennan says (and, again, not all of us do) to agree with his right to say it, subject to his obligation to protect classified information. We have never before seen the approval or removal of security clearances used as a political tool, as was done in this case. Beyond that, this action is quite clearly a signal to other former and current officials. As individuals who have cherished and helped preserve the right of Americans to free speech – even when that right has been used to criticize us – that signal is inappropriate and deeply regrettable. Decisions on security clearances should be based on national security concerns and not political views.

William H. Webster, former Director of Central Intelligence (1987-1991)

George J. Tenet, former Director of Central Intelligence (1997-2004)

Porter J. Goss, former Director of Central Intelligence, (2005-2006)

General Michael V. Hayden, USAF, Ret., former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2006-2009)

Leon E. Panetta, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2009-2011)

General David H. Petraeus, USA, Ret., former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2011-2012)

James R. Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence (2010-2017)

John E. McLaughlin, former Deputy Director of Central Intelligence (2000-2004)

Stephen R. Kappes, former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2006-2010)

Michael J. Morell, former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2010-2013)

Avril Haines, former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2013-2015)

David S. Cohen, former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2015-2017)

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

That'll show him.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

he probably just ate that memo and laughed when whoever's replaced michael cohen showed it to him

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link


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