Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

I think free will as most conceive it today is bullshit nonsense but I also think being not-a-fascist is pretty easy living and you only need a mild helping of information to pull it off.

Sorry wrong thread

Wall to wall carpet is kind of a nice change sometimes.

euler on-topic, framing every argument in terms of the philosophical debates of 200 years ago is v. uncool conservative belief

yeah respect

ha ha well that is what I get paid to do so

I generally consider myself one of the most conservative people here for that reason

Standing athwart etc

yelling cessāte

kids today listen to bad music

Well, haven’t they always?

kids today listen to bad music

― adam the (abanana)

if you're talking about greta van fleet i agree

“Enthusiastic consent” is an unworkable and silly framework. I get the purpose, but it lumps in mediocre consensual sex with people who are willfully blind to signs of implied lack of consent.

Like “meh, ok” is not categorically similar to being drunk and scared.

IDK if this is exactly conservative, but sometimes I think American football culture is a good outlet for fascist impulses and we're better off leaving it alone than allowing those impulses to surge elsewhere.

I don’t know if football is an outlet, I think it just is fascist.

anyone who has been to a hs pep rally can immediately spot the action before thought ethos

where are my JUNIORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSS AT

*WILD SCREAMING*

Yeah, but it seems like a kind of controlled, fishbowl fascism. I'm on the fence about whether it encourages and grows fascist impulses or contains them I guess. xp

Apart from war, what other forms of popular legalized violence are there? Participating and profiting off of people who beat their bodies into CTE ravage and dementia seems extremely fascist.

Well there’s MMA and boxing of course. But ironically MMA may actually ravage the body much less than NFL.

MMA >>> NFL >> boxing for CTE I'd say

esp since fighters don't generally take big hits to the dome while training, and definitely don't fighting 16 times a year

I'm putting boxing last just cuz the entire point is to win by KO

if you're a good BJJ guy in MMA you might avoid getting tagged hardly ever

fighting = fight 16x a year

I'm not convinced Wilbur Ross's trade policy is bad.

I'm also not convinced it's actually conservative.

by "Ross's trade policy" do you mean tariffs and trade wars, or something different?

i don't really know anything about trade policy, but the consensus seems to be that tariffs as a primary component of trade policy is an idea that was discredited around WWII. then again, those policies were gradually made obsolete by things like WTO and whatever system of international trade that's in place right now, which seems to lead to, among other things, terrible working conditions and environmental degradation in much of the world so that western people can buy cheaper electronic goods. but i'm not sure that means that going back to tariffs and the like is a good idea, either.

i have a better take on "fishbowl fascism"

human sacrifice is an important part of maintaining the social order and we should bring it back

and by "better" i mean of course "more horrifying"

I kinda think assassinating politicians is a bad thing. Apparently that's hopelessly centrist now.

In other words, not conservative.

i roll my eyes a little when people say that twitter should ban a sitting US president from the platform

tbh it would be less of an issue if it weren't because @jack is a literal nazi sympathizer

I find the liberal obsession with precocious child activists to be obnoxious and vain.

how many of them are there?

if you're referring to thunberg - and you surely are - she's not exactly "precocious" so much as righteously furious:
https://ktla.com/2019/09/23/how-dare-you-teen-activist-greta-thunberg-asks-world-leaders-at-un-climate-session/
and vilified:
https://tvline.com/2019/09/24/greta-thunberg-fox-news-apology-autism-comment-video/

tbf the conservative obsession with precocious child activists is much worse.

sure, and the liberal version is harmless by comparison. It just seems to really skirt the edge of naivete and magical thinking.

I kinda get where you are coming from but w/r/t climate change the fact of youth/childhood is the whole point

with school shootings, too, obv it makes sense that kids are among the more vocal/visible voices

Also I hate a world that only adultifies children in order to put them in jail or to rationalize sex with them.

my uncool liberal belief is that using precocious children as the voice of an advertising campaign is deeply fucked up, on the same level as taking them to any church that teaches about eternal damnation for sinners

the second half of that is my cool liberal belief though

Greta Thunberg is 16, she can vote in 2 years

like the welch's girl?

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yes, like the welch's girl, although in the case of the welch's children, i guess i can believe that they truly love welch's beverages. just like they also like making fart noises at recess.

but it bugs me much more when the children are selling automobiles, or low-interest loans, or making connections between an insurance company and the history of a baseball team and a city. i don't think it's emotionally scarring to the child, not on the same level that making them believe in hell is scarring, but it's just weird to exploit the voice of an ignorant child for corporate gain

yeah, all of your responses are reasonable and I can't really rationalize my visceral reaction to it. But something about it all reminds me too much of that Clara Jeffrey tweet about her woke 6 year old (even though that's not really a fair comparison since Greta and the Parkland kids are high school age), or I guess just everything awful about clickbait/twitter culture ("This 16 year old DESTROYS Climage Change Deniers") and also just general despair at how little this is probably going to wind up mattering and the feeling that liberals are pinning false hopes on fuzzy feel-good stories about spunky teens.

And also, connected to the last two things, excessive liberal faith in grandiose statements of moral outrage as effective politics.

its totally fucked up how france used joan of arc to relieve the siege of orleans

or I guess just everything awful about clickbait/twitter culture ("This 16 year old DESTROYS Climage Change Deniers") and also just general despair at how little this is probably going to wind up mattering and the feeling that liberals are pinning false hopes on fuzzy feel-good stories about spunky teens.

i think it's more the former (clickbait) than any sort of "liberal" thing about precocious children. all these bullshit websites have to have content every single day or they'll go out of business even earlier than they would have otherwise. and so we have more precocious children DESTROYING people, in addition to former hollywood stars that you wouldn't BELIEVE how much plastic surgery they've had, plus pics of rock-solid bods at the beach

i guess it's true that liberal audiences are more likely to listen to a precocious child delivering a message on a relative topic (like climate change or guns in schools) and actually take them seriously.

conservatives occasionally give the stage to children, but it's usually for shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g

by the way, ^^^ is one of the most fucked up things that has ever happened, and it happened over and over

I was surprised that Thunberg is 16 when I saw it.... she looks younger to me but I'm also at an age where everyone under 25 looks like they are babies, but I wonder if her look has something to do with the reaction

the fact that she's a blond white girl has something to do with it yes