Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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surely glenn has come up with a more interesting name for that pay genre

scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

Every time somebody hits Next on a Drake song before the end, I get $.0001 for each second remaining. People laughed at me when I originally made this deal. "Who are 'Drake' and why would people need to skip them?"

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 6 July 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

good analysis imo at the FT here (t.co link to get past the paywall, but google "Spotify: Drake-oil salesmen" if the link doesn't work

https://t.co/5PvVMWlO8E

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

The rogue KING has another new track out.

I laughed when this showed up as "Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark" on my release radar tho:
https://open.spotify.com/track/3EJfmzhb9CNJT43ZGOP88U?si=LNlogGsdS0S-NdOte6Cd4Q

Jeff W, Saturday, 7 July 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link

Got both of those too - also a Squeeze that Spotify thinks is that Squeeze but isn't. This is definitely happening more often lately.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Saturday, 7 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

I got that "OMD" track too. Guessing those aren't guest bars.

DJI, Saturday, 7 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

Someone should rap over OMD's 'Sacred Heart' though.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Saturday, 7 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

Maddeningly, when I save a playlist on my iPad, it saves as ARTIST - ALBUM, but when I do it on the desktop app it saves as ALBUM - ARTIST

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 8 July 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link

Maddeningly, when I save a playlist on my iPad, it saves as ARTIST - ALBUM, but when I do it on the desktop app it saves as ALBUM - ARTIST

This desktop behaviour appears to be a recent change -- I have an old playlist folder to which I drag albums as playlists on my desktop, and all previous entries are ARTIST – ALBUM, but suddenly now, newly dragged albums are named ALBUM – ARTIST. Grr.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

hey uh pretty sure that new Fucked Up song is...a different Fucked Up

Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

i’ve been reporting these mixups when they show up in release radar by clicking the three dots on the right hand side

maura, Friday, 13 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

ah!

Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

Spotify just reminded me it’s fhe weekend and that it’s time to lay back and relax and maybe chill to some jams
No shit bra?

calstars, Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

A few weeks ago it offered up a playlist — “Songs to Test Headphones With” (192,347 Followers)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

The summer rewind playlist I got this year is really good!

I've seen “Songs to Test Headphones With” before--seems to be mostly "dads who are really into music" stuff iirc? Steely Dan, Roxy Music, etc

Dan I., Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

Hey, but after checking it out I see that now Spotify has the real recording of Axel F! I think it was some fake 3rd party recreation before...

Dan I., Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

Glad to see 'Songs to Test Headphones With' includes Happiness Is Easy by Talk Talk, that song was always my go-to for that back in the Discman era.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 15 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

probably my single biggest gripe about the mobile app is that when it decides you're offline -- which has little or nothing to do with whether you're actually online -- the app is unusable until it decides you're online again, which can take ages

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

Oh yes, that is bad. It's about my only gripe really, apart from the startup time.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

I don't get that - you have premium, right? When it thinks I'm offline it still lets me play tracks I've downloaded.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

Smae here

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

..."downloaded"?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I have premium. I'm not talking about tracks I've downloaded but about ones I want to stream.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

Which is mostly the way I listen, given that I have unlimited data but only 64GB on my phone.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

I get this too: I'm sea Ching and playing from the whole catalogue; my connection drops for whatever reason so the app goes into offline mode; in offline mode I can still search whatever tracks I have downloaded (stuff on my SD card, for instance); my connection is restored, but it takes ages (sometimes not until I've crashed and reopened) to recognise I'm back in online mode and want to search the whole catalogue. It's maddening.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

*searching,ffs.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

I do have premium but when I use mobile Spotify it's to stream (if a track's downloaded it's probably on my phone anyway)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

The app is bad both ways: if you’re online and then lose connection, it will try for ages to load a playlist even if it has it locally. Infuriating behaviour on the Tube. You can fix it by switching to offline mode but they hide that

stet, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

yes, the "thinks you're offline" problem is the worst. the solution, which seems to be downloading stuff you really want to listen to reliably, also sucks because you end up filling up space to the point where the app needs to be deleted and re-downloaded to ever function properly again.

these two pretty big problems make it extra annoying when the app tries to sell you on using the new voice control feature you will never use and they wasted time on. squashing bugs doesn't dazzle investors, though.

Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

Spotify would probably say "Tube use-case problems" are a tiny percentage of users and not worth dealing with.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Right, tho otoh metro commuting is prime listening hours. And it's make or break stuff: if a service doesn't work on someone's commute and a competitor's does, it doesn't matter how rock solid they are elsewhere.

(And fixing it for the specific case has general benefits for everyone. Mobile connections aren't reliable is true as ever)

stet, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

i agree with everything you're saying

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

I was happy to see the app shrink in size when I “undownloaded” almost all of my library. Originally the app was 2.1 gigs and it shrank to about 1.6 or so. Better than nothing

calstars, Thursday, 19 July 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

There's a new 'delete cache' option in the latest version, but it, uh, doesn't seem to do anything - sizewise, at least. I'm resigned to the 'nuke from space' option once a month or so.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 19 July 2018 07:07 (five years ago) link

just checking that y'all don't have "offline mode" checked in preferences?

I stream from the desktop client when I'm at home but I never stream on mobile. Basically the mobile app is my main offline music player. With a 128GB SD card there is very little to worry about w/r/t storage space.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 19 July 2018 07:17 (five years ago) link

that option is available to me. you have premium, right?

I finally figured it out. Should have checked this thread a month ago.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link

Feel like I've complained about this recently, but for me the biggest mark against Spotify is the lack of search options. I used to be able to search for genre (which wasn't really all that useful given the often weird genre names), genre AND year, or by label, but the Mac desktop app doesn't appear to respect any of those anymore. I just did a search for a label and got nothing but a handful of playlists. Same thing for "Year:2017". It returned two songs, both with the word "year" and "2017" in the title. I guess they want us to use 3rd party apps to sift through their catalog. Maybe forcing the obsessive minority to jump through hoops puts less of a burden on their database servers or something.

beard papa, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

That sucks. Was working until recently.

DJI, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

OK.. I do have to say, though, that right after I posted that I started searching around for 3rd party apps that would help me put some new playlists together, and found this, and now I'm not getting any work done at all. I still don't see a way with this tool to cross reference genre, label, and year. I'd like to do something like: Generate a playlist of everything released on four labels between '86 and 94.

beard papa, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

that looks p damn cool

niels, Friday, 20 July 2018 06:52 (five years ago) link

FWIW, the genre/label/year searching still works in the web UI, and hopefully will return to the other apps before long...

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 22 July 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

Phew! Seems like those queries can't possibly be as expensive as "make me a playlist of similar music to this other arbitrary playlist."

DJI, Sunday, 22 July 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

does anyone know how to get playlists to show album titles in addition to song titles and artists?

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

oh nm i see i just needed to expand the window

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

hey uh pretty sure that new Fucked Up song is...a different Fucked Up

― Simon H., Friday, July 13, 2018 3:47 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i’ve been reporting these mixups when they show up in release radar by clicking the three dots on the right hand side

― maura, Friday, July 13, 2018 3:57 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How does this work? Using the OS X app, I see an option to "Suggest an Edit," which takes me to the Spotify Line-In web form, but I don't see a good way there to report a credits problem when two artists have the same name.

My last two Release Radar playlists have included new tracks by Spirit, but this Spirit is a contemporary act, not relevant to my listening history, whose discography has been garbled with that of the 1960s Spirit.

Brad C., Friday, 27 July 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

I'm still wondering how to report same-name artists with garbled discographies.

This week's Release Radar included a brand-new Spanish-language single from T. Rex.

Brad C., Sunday, 5 August 2018 13:13 (five years ago) link

I guess this is what I was looking for:

Spotify Metadata Feedback - Wrong Album Artist?

Brad C., Sunday, 5 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

that "T-Rex" single is being fixed...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 6 August 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

Thanks!

Brad C., Monday, 6 August 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

This week's Release Radar offered me songs by Maserati, Harmonia, Poco, and Love, but none of these are the bands I've listened to in the past. Occasional garbled metadata doesn't bother me but something seems to have changed in the last few weeks ... this is happening so frequently that Release Radar is no longer much fun.

Brad C., Friday, 10 August 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link


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