the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

"well, we tried" = "it's all the nasty EU's fault that they made us do this thing" obv

It's the new ambiguity
ba-dap-bap
Better than the old ambiguity
ba-dap-bap
possibly

Some typical May stuff in there — "Freedom of movement will end; we will have a mobility framework". Don't totally understand their thinking on restricting services; Mode 5 makes up an important chunk of the economy, I thought.

That "we'll collect EU tariffs" plan still seems to be the thing it'll break apart on. Can't see the EU accepting that without also accepting NI becoming the global centre for smuggling.

Everyone is still reporting it weirdly. Shit like "ministers have signed up to a plan to create a free trade area" really needs to read "Ministers have signed up to a plan to seek a free trade area". The Tory party agreeing is what should have happened before A50. This is still just getting to the starting line.

Hasn’t free trade without free movement already been rejected by the EU. I was going to say that this will last as long as it take the EU to state that but the moggites will probably come out swinging long before that.

So back to normal by Sunday morning.

I think they're trying to be craftier/shittier than that. The wording is that they "will end free movement, giving the UK back control over how many people enter the country". WHICH WE ALWAYS HAD. The "free movement" in that sentence is a Mail-conjured phantom. Member states have always retained the right to control the numbers that enter seeking work, and those who can stay for longer than three months.

The fourth freedom that is the EU red line is the freedom of movement for workers, and the "mobility framework" they're proposing sounds just like that.

So, as far as I can tell, Brexit was driven by a racist/legimate concerns agenda predicated on the idea that we had no control of immigration, which we did. We'll now leave, at enormous upheaval and cost, and end up with near enough exactly the status quo on immigration.

sorry, I meant "persons" there, not "workers". Same sense, though. The Tory wording is "a mobility framework so that UK and EU citizens can travel to each other's territories and apply to study and work". Which is FoMoP so far as I understand it.

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I suspect that Boris, DoubleD and Adam Weritty’s bff will collectively resign in a few days.

17 years apart but they dress like twins. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Rjcktm7Q6rA/TpGN5v7BMNI/AAAAAAAABcc/stBEMlNvYzo/s1600/article-2046929-0E4B14F800000578-585_634x629%255B1%255D.jpg

OMG, these bridesmaids are all dressed the same! It's like they're quintuplets!

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2018/07/would-labour-be-ahead-polls-if-it-opposed-brexit

some common sense here from S Bush, but most the centrists who bash Corbyn every day for not opposing brexit know very well if he did it would spell his end as Labour leader, which would suit them fine.

I think for some of them (eg Alistair Campbell) it's pretty much the whole point.

some of them lay it on a bit thick, like a certain Grauny writing ILXer, who is very opposed to austerity but unfortunately because of his deeply held convictions about the EU, spends every bastard day bashing the only trustworthy anti-austerity candidate!

I confess that I've been totally zoned out of the Brexit disaster for pretty much all of this year - and I'm someone who is interested in politics, what about the poor sods who aren't? Anyway, the prospect of it blowing up the Conservative Party is almost all that interests me now, even though I know in my heart of hearts that's not going to happen because they are Cockroach Tory Party of Cockroach UK and could survive a supernova.

they have always been able to survive anything, even a paedo leader couldn't bring them down!

that's a bit harsh on IDS

beware of the Quiet Paedo!

they're the worst kind

well the most effective anyway

The example of Jimmy Savile very much suggests otherwise.

was he a noisy paedo or just a noisy fella who was a paedo

A fair and knotty point

Cat among the pigeons there.

Boris really really really wants to get sacked, dunt he?

it seems May's brand nu brexit package has managed to piss off UK business/right wing hardliners/Dacre-drones/absolutely everybody!

“sources warned that May’s customs compromise looked very similar to the “new customs partnership” that the EU rejected as “magical thinking” 11 months ago”

That seems to be what Johnson, etc are betting on. No point in resigning yet when there is every chance the EU will reject the proposals.

At some point they might have to admit that there is no one form of Brexit that can get through the Conservative Party, the Commons, the the Lords and the EU. That point probably represents the end of this government in its current form so no surprise they're kicking that can down the road.

David Davies has slung his hook.

really? fucking a!

ohhhhhhhhh

Looks like David Davis has done a Dexeu midnight runner

— David Mills (@DavidMills73) July 8, 2018

soz, but I liked this!

Easiest resignation in history

See ya DD. However I've just turned on Sky News to find who else but Kate Andrews discussing it.

>:(

NOT lol American!

classic cowardice resignation from the boy davis there, a time-honoured tactic he no doubt learned during his time in the sas

who shits out wins!

BBC saying another minister is going with him.

Fox then Boris tomorrow at some point.

here we fucking go?

Steve Baker has resigned from DeExEu as well.

last thing we need is an autumn election on back of an England world cup win, really need Croatia to gub them now.

I wonder how many letters the 1922 Committee have now.

Me too. Can this government last? They don't have the votes (on the usual arithmetic) to bring it down, so in theory it can, but how? Is May going to take charge of everything as they resign one by one, until it is just her, alone, delivering The Will?

If it does collapse, I wonder if the successor govt will try to revoke A50 and blame it all on the May admin. This is all too nuts for me now.

The Guardian goin in pretty hard:

David Davis steps down as Brexit secretary

you don't say...

Schadenfreude 101

I keep forgetting Trump is coming this week. He is surely going to volunteer to negotiate