the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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"Bexit's coming home"

Sang by no one ever..

Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link

oh god this guy is a monster:

Britannia Unchained: Global Lessons for Growth and Prosperity is a political book written by several British Conservative Party MPs. It was released on 13 September 2012. Its authors present a treatise, arguing that Britain should adopt a different and radical approach to business and economics or risk "an inevitable slide into mediocrity".[1]

The book is written by Kwasi Kwarteng, Priti Patel, Dominic Raab, Chris Skidmore and Elizabeth Truss – five Tory MPs who were elected in May 2010 and belong to the party's Thatcherite-leaning Free Enterprise Group.

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The book caused controversy in August 2012 after a short extract appeared in London's Evening Standard which accused British workers of laziness, and lagging behind their Asian counterparts. Part of this was later reprinted in The Guardian: "The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor. Whereas Indian children aspire to be doctors or businessmen, the British are more interested in football and pop music."

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

yeah Raab is another one of these mutton heads who connects the UK's productivity crisis with lazy workers and likes the Singapore Model iirc.

calzino, Monday, 9 July 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link

SEEMS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO REMEMEBER THIS, GUYS. https://t.co/ijDYzXmmm9 (via @TanyaGold1)

— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) July 9, 2018

calzino, Monday, 9 July 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link

a Brexit for everybody, finally

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

The unchained stuff doesn't reconcile with accepting this post on a soft brexit 'illusion of control' position? What's the deal here?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link

i was wondering that myself - a sop to the hard brexiters on may's part, and pure opportunism by raab?

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link

I get that its a step and the dead end housing cab post might not be doing it lol but I would've said patience and bide yr time.

The unchained stuff is a make eng great again via take back control, and he could've run for the leadership on that platform. Now he is aligning himself with this sinking ship in a key position where every move will be watched.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 10:34 (five years ago) link

it's perfect, she's desperate, he's mercenary

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:35 (five years ago) link

If DD can't swallow the medicine May appears to be calling for I don't know how on earth D Raab will.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:36 (five years ago) link

it'll give him "responsible Party MP" credits in future, cos either the Tories split over this or at some point somebody's going to have to reconcile the sides. once Brexit's done the latter becomes more likely i guess.

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link

DD is just a stunt politician, a joke who doesn't really wanna be in gov. Raab probably a little more long game careerist than that.

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link

raab c brexit

― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 09:34 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my god its beautiful

repartee is deft (darraghmac), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

See below on what Davis was offered to stop him quitting, from source close to ⁦@DavidDavisMP⁩. Response from Downing St official: “I know nothing about that” pic.twitter.com/kvXoOyGFlr

— Robert Peston (@Peston) July 9, 2018

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

No doubt he is more focused than DD but I don't see him trying to deliver soft brexit as a good look.

Not a position where he can quietly make evil.

It does seem like the Unchained ppl are stupid, or don't have that long game..xps

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 10:46 (five years ago) link

How far do you have to go before the privileges the UK had previous to Brexit are rescinded while the UK Is still tied to the EU

Stevolende, Monday, 9 July 2018 11:14 (five years ago) link

If PM Corbyn had fucked up this badly he'd be in prison already, with a Tory-MI5 grand coalition government serving in the national interest

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) July 9, 2018

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 12:24 (five years ago) link

boris johnson seems to have dodged out of the official engagements he was supposed to have attended today and according to peston he's been meeting his advisers in private instead. this is being seen as a sign that he's just about to quit

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link

i dunno, last week it was a sign he was too much of a hypocrite/coward to back up his own public stance on a vote in parliament

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

i mean he abdicates his responsibilities for so many reasons

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

This is a good time to take a fake principled stance. If he quits maybe PM will be under a vote of confidence. Would expect her to survive that, and for this dreck to limp on till next spring at the least.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

oh lord please no

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link

remember the "short-lived" Cleggeron era? these people are like herpes

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

he's gone!

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

not far enough

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

election incoming

stet, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

'class act' as The Guardian might put it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

self-immolation in the lotus position on College Green or gtfo

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

There might not even be enough for a confidence vote:

The 1922 Committee is 42 votes. Davis and Baker would make 44. They need 48. None of them has any intention of doing it: this is an idle power play. https://t.co/Czy3Vyu1Ec

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) July 8, 2018

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

must be time for a new thread

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

i mean we are surely into a new phase

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

(for the record i have thought boris has been a never-was since he flinched after brexit: DD casually hammered this home last night)

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

i like to think that boris made the announcement then stood up, smashed the window and zip-wired straight out of carlton house

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

and then realised he didn't actually have a zip wire

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

Cometh the hour, cometh the Mogg.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

the leader we deserve

the moggman prophecies

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

holy shit at everything

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

this is so far beyond omnishambles, it’s like omnimetainfinishambles

wouldn't say we are into a new phase till May goes or is pushed out.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

new thread new thread new thread (bangs clipboard)

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

who cares what you wouldn't say

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

what dead-eyed ghoul will rise to replace boris as foreign sec i wonder

time for ian duncan smith to make his move

This is going to be really funny when we're all destitute.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

they'd surely struggle to find someone with quite the same level of competency for the post

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

Priti Patel waiting in the wings.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 9 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

Guido Fawkes reporting that Fox is next.

Bet Gove gets FCO.

gyac, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

I am told Downing Street "spiked" @BorisJohnson - that is they announced he was quitting BEFORE he actually finished writing his resignation letter. This is getting very brutal

— Robert Peston (@Peston) July 9, 2018

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link


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