the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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All lies of Michael Gove suggest Michael Gove to be foreign secretary

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 9 July 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

During Gove's last little period of political exile he looked finished. I think it was him appearing on late night current affairs shows and looking into Ed Balls apathetic dead eyes of oblivion, and realising that be him soon, that inspired him to grasp his next chance with his sweaty little grasping hands!

calzino, Monday, 9 July 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

I can't possibly imagine how Gove as foreign sec might backfire. OTOH it's probably a sign that any serious challenge to May is likely to fizzle out.

On the other hand, if he turns it down then the cat really is among the pigeons.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 July 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

Hunt is going into no.10.

Gove to Health is not implausible.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 9 July 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

Hunt confirmed.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 9 July 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

Spoonerism.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 9 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

My challenging opinion is that Jeremy Hunt would be relatively harmless as Foreign Secretary. Gove at Health would be a disaster.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 July 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

Yes, though Gove still has a reputation for results at complicated ministries (Justice, Education, etc) with a bunch of Tories.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 9 July 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Gove has too much ego and too many shit ideas, a dangerous man.

calzino, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Didn't hunt turn something down at the last reshuffle doing he was dedicated to health?

koogs, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

Doing / saying

koogs, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

nah he just strolled into Mays office and demanded a better job title when she was supposed to sack him!

calzino, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

Matt Hancock at Health.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 9 July 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

Hancock is the first MP to launch his own smartphone app in 2018. The head of privacy rights group Big Brother Watch called the app a "fascinating comedy of errors", after the app was found to collect its users' photographs, friend details, check-ins, and contact information.

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Monday, 9 July 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

In his role as Minister of State for Energy, he was criticised for hiring a private jet to fly back from a climate conference[14] and accepting money[15] from climate change denial organisation Global Warming Policy Foundation. In October 2014, he apologized after retweeting a poem suggesting that the Labour Party was "full of queers", describing his actions as a "total accident".

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 9 July 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

hancock is so gormless and inept

what are hunt’s foreign policy positions ?

||||||||, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

Seeing word that Chris Green is tendering resignation along with the letter over on FB.

Stevolende, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

gove has actually been alright at environment (mostly because he keeps pinching labour policies). wouldn’t want him anywhere near education/health/chancellor though

||||||||, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

Your a pps Chris. It is not relevant and nobody gives a fuck. Apart from me obviously.

— Simon Hart (@Simonhartmp) July 9, 2018

||||||||, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

Re hunt. This is what I remember:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/08/jeremy-hunt-refused-to-leave-department-of-health-during-mays-reshuffle-7214285/

From January

koogs, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

gove has actually been alright at environment (mostly because he keeps pinching labour policies). wouldn’t want him anywhere near education/health/chancellor though

I too have heard this - also that he’s an Ideas Man who Fights for His Ideas - so if you can convince him that your idea is actually his, you’re golden.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

school system is still buried beneath the fucking damage this cretinous little runt inflicted on it, fuck him in every endeavour forever

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

lmao

Meeting the worst Foreign Secretary we’ve ever had amongst the destruction of Hurricane Irma in Anguilla. Disinterested and out of his depth he cared nothing for our situation. Good riddance pic.twitter.com/udzzpoZ7OW

— John McKendrick QC🇦🇮🇬🇧🇵🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍🌈 (@JohnMQC) July 9, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 9 July 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

hokeycokey.wav

Unless Brexit is back on track by March 2019, I will seriously consider putting my name forward to return as @UKIP leader. The will of 17.4m voters must be carried out. pic.twitter.com/BNLtA6xPiJ

— Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage) July 9, 2018

Oh man I hope that Anguilla tweet is just the tip of the iceberg.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 July 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

He really wants to set a record for most times retiring from the same job.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

We all know that Boris Johnson’s decision to quit is absolutely not about one man and his personal ambitions, but I’m struggling to think of another time where a Secretary of State called in the photographers to record the moment a resignation letter was signed. https://t.co/35FEuuh9dV

— Sam Macrory (@sammacrory) July 9, 2018

suzy, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

Announcing this arsehole's resignation before he got the chance to do so will go down as the greatest single achievement of May's goverment.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 08:23 (five years ago) link

When a world class tosser like Max Hastings describes you in despicable terms, you really must have to push the boundaries of arseholedom to new levels to earn that!

calzino, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/tXCP0F7hhb

— wint MP (@parliawint) January 9, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link

And the blows keep coming:

Conservative party vice chairs Maria Caulfield and Ben Bradley quit over Theresa May's Chequers Brexit plan https://t.co/eu5WbZqyvi

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 10, 2018

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

oh dear how sad

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

there are two chairmen of Tory vice?

koogs, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

Both have warned they will lose their seats unless the Tories deliver Brexit.

Ms Caulfield supported Leave in the EU referendum, and Mr Bradley backed Remain.

Caulfield is the MP for Lewes and Lewes voted remain in the referendum iirc?

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

Bradley, elected in Mansfield last year – and is a remainer –faced criticism after comments emerged showing he had once suggested that unemployed people should opt for free vasectomies rather than continuing to have children they could not afford to support.

In a blogpost, Bradley claimed that the country would be soon “drowning in a vast sea of unemployed wasters” if workless families had four or five children while others limited themselves to one or two.

A month later, Bradley was forced to apologise to Jeremy Corbyn and make a donation to charity over a tweet making claiming the Labour leader “sold British secrets to communist spies”.

am sure this scrote will be sorely missed

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

wasn't bradley also the tory youth weapon lol: ie in charge of youth-facing social media strategy

mark s, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

that's right - the vice chair for youth

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link

xxxp think so but her electoral arithmetic may be sound- if lots of leave voters abandon the party she's cooked

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

it's more likely her remainer constituency will all go back to voting for the libdems again tbh, good riddance either way though

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

Caulfield was the Conservative vice-chair for women.

Currently, women in England and Wales have to prove to two medical professionals that carrying on with the pregnancy is detrimental to their health or wellbeing, before having a termination.

Without permission, abortion remains a criminal offence under the 1967 Abortion Act.

In March last year, a Ten Minute Rule Bill called for changes to the law, to prevent the prosecution of women who end their own pregnancies without permission.

The proposed changes would have meant women who, for example, order abortion pills online and self-administer would not risk prosecution.

However, Ms Caulfield spoke out against the bill saying the idea would leave young women less safe and "embolden" men who force women into abortion.

She said it would become a "charter for extreme abortion practices", including sex-selective abortion.

In 2015, Ms Caulfield voted with the government opposing the removal of the so called tampon tax, currently levied on female sanitary products.

Caulfield announced she would like a debate on reducing the abortion upper time limit which currently stands at 24 weeks. She argued a debate was needed on bringing the time limit down — erroneously claiming the UK has some of the most liberal abortion laws in Europe.

On 14 Dec 2016:
Maria Caulfield voted against calling on the Government to ensure women and protected groups are not disproportionally impacted by tax and benefit changes and against publication of a gender equality strategy to improve the position of women.

gyac, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

Labour deputy leader @tom_watson says it's "not a question of Labour trying to bring the government down, it's actually a question of Labour trying to help the government get a good deal and try and stop the government bringing itself down" pic.twitter.com/29ykYCF1vF

— Sky News Politics (@SkyNewsPolitics) July 10, 2018

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link

Watson slowly morphing into Hilary Benn

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

the government is doing a great job of bringing itself down all on its own tbh

Best thing Labour can do is not end up taking any blame for Brexit tbh.

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

xxxp think so but her electoral arithmetic may be sound- if lots of leave voters abandon the party she's cooked

Difficult to see where they'd go right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:17 (five years ago) link

Heading for the UKIP life rafts now that, like King Arthur, Nigel has returned at the time of the countries greatest need.

Disclaimer: I may be taking comments on Guido Fawkes as gospel.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link

I'm not sure EU-based voting is ever a calculated strategic decision tbh.

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link

But I'll observe once again that pre-referendum most of the electorate didn't give much of a shit and we might be heading back that way.

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

NV otm. It’s a difficult path to take

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link


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