Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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I am pretty hopped up on cold meds myself. I like 2 live on the edge

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

they probably just borrowed some coke from nick mullen

coke is stupid but consumer-driven responses to the horrors of capitalism are always grossly insufficient

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link

don’t worry no one’s calling for a cocaine boycott

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

whew

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link

we should all be using more cocaine in solidarity with the indigenous peoples of Bolivia etc

devops mom (silby), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

I am calling for a cocaine boycott

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 July 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

smoke weed instead dudes it’s chill af

Haven't we already covered the folly of ethical consumerism

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

I am also calling for batteries to be included with everything fwiw

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 July 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

buy a newspaper? BATTERIES
gas? BATTERIES
batteries? BATTERIES

(this post brought to you by the battery board of america)

lmao bizarro

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

if u mean "didn't I bring up the folly of ethical consumerism to justify my continued consumption of shitty comic book adaptations" then the answer is a resounding YES

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 July 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

Bizarro's in the bosom of Big Battery

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

Also IN MY DEFENSE we wee discussing an adaptation that doesn't actually exist yet

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

wee wee hurrr

who can honestly blame these podcasters for doing the worst drug

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

buy a Before Watchmen comic? BATTERIES

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 July 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

is it weird that I don't care what drugs they, or anyone does

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

xp lol

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

damn

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

absolute unit

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

metallica wrote “battery” about that one

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

lmao

Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

I get more judgmental about coke than even meth or opiates. It's just so '80s Wall Street lame (and maybe I'm biased because it was just like taking really expensive Ritalin for me).

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

I owned fairtradecocaine.org for a couple of years, I wanted to get logo t-shirts printed up with a caricature of Pablo Escobar wearing Buddy Holly glasses.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

Lol that nerds who called their podcast Chapo Traphouse would one day make enough $$ to become real boy coke heads.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link

we all have a dream

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link

Felix would somehow be the least annoying Chapo on a coke jag. Amber definitely the most.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link

hardcore lefties doing performative cokehead schtick is p gross imo

― Οὖτις, Monday, July 9, 2018 6:51 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they're performative hardcore lefties. their contribution to leftist politics in the USA begins and ends with the amount of people that started listening after the election and either joined the DSA, became more active, or at least more aware of (sorry) neoliberal ills and the possibility for a better future. early on i said they had a responsibility to be more serious because of their platform, but they've burrowed into their niche and are past the point of reaching people outside of, like you said, talk radio disputes played out on twitter. half of them come from money, they're "problematic," their sister shows are Red Scare and Cum Town. their leftist "credentials" or whatever don't exist and they don't care. neither do i, though i understand why people do - they're certainly not representing their "cause" or whatever very well by flaunting their drug use.

ftr i despise cocaine & what it does to people, haven't done it in years, but them straight up posting a picture of chopped up lines on that dude's book was hilarious. again, i listen to the show (and RS and CT) because they're fun, not because i agree with them. but as always, ymmv

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

Amber is the only one of them that I get the sense has any activist bona fides and she's almost a peripheral member. That said, I think their contribution to the revitalization of DSA is actually quite important even if it might have been semi-accidental.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:11 (five years ago) link

I agree, but how big a part did they play? I didn't want to overstate their influence bc I'm not sure

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

I mean I was very much a person who had become politically complacent/dejected, and the Bernie campaign, DSA revival etc have actually made me take small steps to involve myself for the first time in years. And listening to Chapo, as much as it's largely just entertainment and blowing off steam, has contributed to my feeling that the world of the possible has expanded.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link

I mean I think it's the same as any kind of political entertainment that accompanies a movement -- it doesn't cause the movement but it reinforces it.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

I mean if you want data on the impact of Chapo you will never get it. But excessive fealty to data is part of what got us into this mess.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link

Cmon, Matt’s drug of choice is booze and maybe weed.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 05:45 (five years ago) link

I admit I am somewhat trepidatious about how they'll collectively handle the higher profile that may or may not accompany the book release.

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link

the impact of Trapo is probably bigger than the impact of the Daily Show/Colbert Show and its attendant Rally To Restore Sanity/Kissinger guest spots

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

I would estimate a few hundred people have joined DSA via the pod (~150k listeners, subtract the non-Americans and people who don't d activism or who already organize with other folks...) but I can't discount the idea that people conflate them with "the left" and assume it's brotown all around, which might well have dissuaded others who might otherwise be open. (Hence a good chunk the new upswing in interest in DSA that came with AOC's victory.)

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

I do wonder if it's appropriate to characterize Red Scare as a "sister podcast" - they're beginning to exhibit a reactionary streak I've never detected from CTH

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

succesful podcast hosting would be pretty much an absolute guarantee of drug addiction for me. "work" twice a week for like an hour, lots of disposable income. it's a recipe for disaster. which chapo member will end up at the betty ford clinic?

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 9 July 2018 22:55 (yesterday) Permalink

I would've said Amber but she hasn't been around much. Matt seems the most likely.

― Simon H., Monday, 9 July 2018 22:59 (yesterday) Permalink

hasn't been around much huh

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

I've never heard of Red Scare

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

I do wonder if it's appropriate to characterize Red Scare as a "sister podcast" - they're beginning to exhibit a reactionary streak I've never detected from CTH


Yeah tbh it’s closer to Cum Town, they’re openly ignorant and speak on things they know nothing about with confidence... all the time

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

So it's Dasha and Anna Khachiyan? I used to follow Anna on twitter, sometimes she was good but she definitely has a Camille Paglia contrarian feminist thing going on.

These podcasts have friendships in common and are all loosely connected to left/weird twitter but otherwise I don't see that much in common between them.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

I mean they are at least equally connected to Street Fight, Katie Halper, Delete Your Account, and the Trillbillies afaict, probably other podcasts too.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

I still think Nick would be an great Chapo guest but I guess that'll never happen.

ryan, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

challop trap house

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— Will🦕Menaker (@willmenaker) July 10, 2018

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

patting myself on the back for that one which I assume has already been posted

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link


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