Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

yes!!! as always

wait why do people not like Liz Breunig

Catholicism.

she's anti-abortion, though she doesn't support laws that restrict women's access to abortion

She's actually not super clear on that from what I've seen

interesting

oh ok, i had wondered, as I've honestly never encountered that before irl.

america is funny man, literally one of the only left wing opinion writers in a major paper in the country and she's pro-life, hoo boy

i 'like' her but yes the trad cath thing creeps me out no matter what

at a guess i think she keeps herself distant from the pro-life movement as it exists, but re: laws about such i'm p sure her preferred legal regime is basically alien to the world as it is in toto. when she says she's a christian and not a liberal she's not kidding.

Imo she's never adequately dealt with the question of whether abortion should be legal in a socialist society. I appreciate the economic angle (it's bad when material conditions make having a kid prohibitive) but there are so many other reasons people have abortions!

(xp)

Listening to the Red Scare ep, she's explaining her position, refers to the moment of conception as when "another actor enters the picture" OK i get it now gtfo

Boooooooo

my sexagenarian catholic dad from the most socially conservative country in south america isn't pro-life. an educated, otherwise leftist, 20 something from north america being pro-life is just steam-coming-out-the-ears-inducing for me

And she's the only socialist with a mainstream newspaper column lol

america is funny man, literally one of the only left wing opinion writers in a major paper in the country and she's pro-life, hoo boy

Married to an autistic guy (per one of her tweets) who's had his problematic turn as a bonus.

well... as long as she isn't into overturning roe v wade... w/e...

i really don't believe in calling people out or cancelling them etc. or with people on the left being super fucking cops about purity but man reproductive rights are just sort of the baseline

Anna asked Liz about abortion in cases of rape or incest... Liz literally said "that's really hard. the third actor in that circumstance, the child isn't responsible for what happened..." Fuuuuuck you!!

Ok I get it now lol

xp ya i feel the same

In other news, that window keeps a movin'

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/07/10/cynthia-nixon-im-a-democratic-socialist-503279

Will did an AMA
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/8xr4ab/official_will_menaker_ama/

had no idea there was so much acting involved

xp

I respect pro-lifers who think "rape and incest" exemptions are bullshit more than the rest - if you're pro-life and believe that personhood begins at conception then how does the manner in which the person is conceived matter?

so are miscarriages ... involuntary manslaughter?

the whole "life begins at conception" tack is arbitrary and stupid. I suppose consistency can be admired in and of itself but the baseline position it stems from is illogical, based in religious dogma, and socially harmful.

Pro-lifers in general are monstrous but I'd rather deal with one who's logically consistent.

why who gives a shit, they're all idiots

Which is more appealing to the population that isn't as extremist as I am about reproductive rights - soft pro-lifers who'll carve out exemptions/focus on bullshit like 'partial birth abortions' or someone who just point blank says no to all of it?

Logically consistent reactionary beliefs are usually repulsive to normal people.

Right

why who gives a shit, they're all idiots

― flappy bird, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:36 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Conservative/traditionalist Catholics are the most comprehensible and intellectually consistent kind of conservative afaict, and mostly they seem to advocate these days for a withdrawal from political life, which is better than working for the reestablishment of Western Christendom

Chapos should get jobs

As abortion doctors

hell yeah get that new ContraPoints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyaftqCORT4&feature=youtu.be

Matt was on Jake Flores’ and gave a helluva Marxist history of American (Neo)liberalism which points to what he’ll probably be doing after once Chapo disintegrates.

https://soundcloud.com/user-423070290/matt-christmans-softcore-history

PodDamnAmerica - Matt Christman's Softcore History

In possibly our most ambitious audio experiment to date, we invite Matt Christman from Chapo Trap House to chart a history of Liberalism and American politics. What is it? Where did it go wrong? How does it fit into a star wars analogy?

There's also a good 10 minutes on the upcoming Ozyfest music festival featuring headlining act Hillary Clinton. The Aum Shinrikyo death cult comes up at the beginning. I don't know we talk about all kinds of shit, it's a big one.

Married to an autistic guy (per one of her tweets) who's had his problematic turn as a bonus.

― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, July 10, 2018 6:23 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Matt is great

Cushman is good on that Pod Damn episode but man Flores' co-hosts are what I assume Chapo haters hear when they try listening to CTH, full zoo-crew vibe at times

what is a "zoo-crew vibe"?

https://sitdownpod.libsyn.com/ep-35-assassinations-w-matt-christman
matt with mike recine is a fun team

the latest Red Scare was the last I'll listen to - I hit bad take saturation. (specifically the bit about whisper networks / the Shitty Media Men list)

They were pretty damn reactionary in their Israel episode - a lot of talk about how cultural differences need to be acknowledged that sounded straight out of the European anti-refugee rhetoric handbook.

Yep. That was strike one, abortion the second, and this was the third. (Oh, there was also the "retard" thing but that honestly paled in comparison.) I was willing to be a little more patient because it was great to hear a dude-free 'cast but it really got to be intolerable.

lol @ literal bros being least offensively bro-ish ppl on brooklyn podcastsphere left

I mean, at this point the NYT opinion section is more broadly offensive than anything in the brooklyn podcastverse, so

In this episode of Trump Bites, Donald Trump’s not-so-secret admiration for Vladimir Putin plays out in a teenager’s bedroom, where the fantasies of this forbidden romance come to life. https://t.co/cWeQMuzWUz pic.twitter.com/4shBRkloot

— NYT Opinion (@nytopinion) July 16, 2018

the homo angle on Trumpputin is neverending, esp from Democratic gay morons

fitting, a lot of The Resistance is fan fiction

Khachiyan is very smart but gives the impression she has next to no experience of the world, outside a Brooklyn art scene she hates 99.9% of the other people in.

There was a Twitter thread from last year about how Greek culture is fundamentally antithetical to capitalism (and better for it) based on the owner of a cafe (who was probably fiddling taxes, tbh) giving her sister a discount for paying for a coffee in cash that was so mortifying i could have self-combusted. It's not a huge surprise she likes Nassim Taleb so much.

khachiyan is not very smart, but she is very good at zeroing in on a target and utterly destroying them. this is not because of any kind of brilliance or wit, but because she rejects the scruples and principles that the rest of left-twitter-world takes for granted, so she is free to really lay into someone in that slimy and ruthless way that is more common among sam hyde types. the kind of person that, if she hadnt grown up in a metropolitan-left milieu and thus felt a gut-level identification with "leftism," would definitely reject all this stuff and describe herself as some kind of "paleoconservative"

so, I guess I dont like her

oh wow she likes taleb and la paglia. head explodes

I'm going to pretend calling paglia "la paglia" was just some try-hard affectation and not a mistake based on me thinking about anthony lapaglia