Elon Musk

I never asked my friend about it but the impression I got was that coordinating panel installation as a front for selling the home batteries wasn't working great, and then the actual home batteries aren't a great business either

the Powerwalls are mostly useless IMO, the LG Chem batteries seamlessly integrate with Solar Edge inverters. LG is now sold out until August/September, indicating that there is high demand for a product that doesn't depend on "authorized dealers"

I would think powerwall would appeal to island dwellers and wilderness buffs only - or rich people who want to be green

it's useless without the power grid, not designed for off-grid systems

The Powerwall 2 is probably the best home battery you can buy today but far from the best there could be and they are not without issues. Price/performance is really good. None of this really matters because they are almost unobtainable.

LGChem comprehensively outsell them in Australia because they have stock available where Tesla don’t. In Germany Sonnen beats Tesla as do a number of other brands partly because germans buy German, are prepared to pay a premium for quality and partly because Sonnen offer a longer performance warranty.

The SolarEdge LG combo is okay, especially if you go DC coupled and need an optimiser solution. It’s somewhat let down by a somewhat elderly control system which doesn’t react particular quickly to changes in load which wastes a bit of energy. The LGChem battery is tricky to site outdoors as it is passive cooled and doesn’t like sunshine, much better in a garage or cellar.

Huawei have an interesting inverter that works with the LGChem packs but I have had a chance to test one yet.

great info Ed, thanks!

there is talk in my town of replacing a power substation with batteries - I dont know much about such things but I imagine a warehouse of powerwalls to supplement the grid

Replacing a substation with batteries doesn’t seem credible but using them to defer or displace a capital upgrade, eg. a new transmission line or transformer is credible. Tesla’s powerpack commercial battery is a pretty good piece of engineering. The liquid cooling allows them to creat a flexible, modular system that consists of inverter and battery blocks that are the size of an oversized telephone kiosk.

Most other manufacturers aircool and use computer racking, often mounted in shipping containers to hold racks of batteries like servers, with separate containers for inverters etc.

Whose batteries are better depends on the application, duty cycle and how badly Elon wants to do the project.

Fun fact Tesla uses Samsung cells in powerwalls and power packs when they can’t make enough of their own.

I think Latham is referring to using storage to decommission natural gas peakers, in Oxnard specifically:

https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/ugc/articles/2018/07/17/declining-battery-storage-costs-raise-questions-about-the-role-of-natural-gas.html

probably should take this to the energy thread but w/e

I’m seeing a lot of RFPs from public agencies interested in deferring capital investments or decomissioning peaker plants by using some combo of batteries and distributed generation resources. Dunno how viable any of the solutions are but there’s def a big demand for this stuff, and tons of people are rushing to fill it. Ed’s info seems good as far as I understand this stuff.

https://www.pressherald.com/2018/07/18/south-portland-residents-balk-at-cmp-substation-expansion-plan/

extremely good ceo has a normal one

One of Tesla’s biggest anonymous trolls/shorts has been doxxed as an investment manager heavily invested in the oil industry.

He has now deleted his Twitter account, which he used to promote his blog posts about Tesla and attack anyone saying anything that could be perceived as positive on Tesla, after Tesla CEO Elon Musk reportedly called his boss to complain about his behavior.

We are talking about ‘Montana Skeptic’ who has been using Seeking Alpha, a financial blog aggregator, and Twitter to push the bear case on Tesla for the past 3 years.

https://electrek.co/2018/07/24/tesla-troll-short-doxxed-oil-industry-musk-calls-boss/

Highlighted the wrong part imo.

what, the 'heavily involved in the oil industry' part?

Last night I dreamt that Elon Musk was in charge of mitigating, via his supposed technological wizardry, the end of the world, which was occurring via a great flow of lava across the entire earth's surface, but he kept messing it all up with self-aggrandizing schemes akin to the Thai cave rescue submarine fiasco, as humanity gradually succumbed to the molten rock.

'heavily involved in the oil Energon industry'

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/3/3c/EnergonCubesCartoon1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070120063926

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/07/30/elon-musk-meets-with-his-pr-team

extremely good social media company has a normal one

Twitter has implemented a new method for combating cryptocurrency scammers: it now automatically locks unverified accounts that change their display name to Elon Musk. If you have a non-verified account that is not associated with a phone number, changing your display name to that of the SpaceX and Tesla CEO will result in an immediate lock out. Twitter will then ask you to pass a CAPTCHA test, as well as provide a phone number, to regain access.

“As part of our continuing efforts to combat spam and malicious activity on our service, we’re testing new measures to challenge accounts that use terms commonly associated with spam campaigns. We are continually refining these detections based on changes in spammy activity,” a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement given to The Verge. The company declined to comment on whether the measure has been put in place for any other public figure’s Twitter account.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/24/17610348/twitter-elon-musk-display-name-change-lock-account-crypto-scams?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Everyone with that name is a scammer tbf

tru

all is well with the world again

https://www.stereogum.com/2007418/elon-musk-ends-farting-unicorn-feud-with-lisa-pranks-dad/news/

twitter-elon-musk-display-name-change-lock-account-crypto-scams?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

ok lol, missed this yesterday.

Update 6:13 p.m.: Tesla spokesperson Dave Arnold sent along a statement, seemingly confirming some of the situation and, using Skeptic’s real name, said Skeptic’s employer “is a longtime Tesla supporter and was one of the first to purchase a Model S.”

https://jalopnik.com/get-a-load-of-this-ridiculous-story-about-how-elon-musk-1827842961

today in burlington stink

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-01/tesla-s-phantom-shooter-the-strange-story-of-a-debunked-threat

Just posted a $717 million net quarterly loss.

how the hell can they be losing money with great ideas like these

If you’re into video game development, consider applying to Tesla. We want to make super fun games that integrate the center touch screen, phone & car irl.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 1, 2018

Like Pokemon Go! But with people swerving across motorways....

The future is fucking stupid.

THE STOCK MARKET IS SO RATIONAL!!!

Tesla shares are literally going up and down based on how much of a pissy dickhead and/or phony insincere apologist Elon Musk is on any given day:

Elon Musk makes the ‘most valuable apology of all time’ on Tesla's earnings call

Tesla shares are surging after Elon Musk apologized to Wall Street analysts over his behavior on the company's previous conference call.

Three months earlier, the stock plunged in after-hours trading in response to what Musk called "boring, bonehead questions" from analysts.

This time, Musk showed contrition and Tesla shares surged 8.5 percent in after-hours trading Wednesday, adding about $4.75 billion to the stock's value.

KeyBanc Capital Markets called it "maybe the most valuable apology of all time."

it's all apologies and the promise of magic beans

companies that actually produce a reasonable number of products or have income are boring

BREAKING: Elon Musk invents device that allows you to play video games instead of speaking to investors

A fun little breakdown of their current woes.

starting to get the impression that Elon is getting bored with the idea of cars. just doesn't seem that into cars anymore

A fun little breakdown of their current woes.

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, August 3, 2018 10:01 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good read!

agreed, thanks

need to find a way to convince these vc idiots to give me one billion to flush down the toilet (after giving myself a significant chunk of it)

starting to get the impression that Elon is getting bored with the idea of cars. just doesn't seem that into cars anymore

― mh, Friday, August 3, 2018 11:14 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so elon's midlife crisis is the opposite of normal midlife crises

hmm he's still dating progressively younger women, so it's too early to judge

BUSINESS
Elon Musk’s Twitter Account: ‘Am Considering Taking Tesla Private at $420’
Tesla stock rose 6.3% to $363.56

someone trying to go to jail

@elonmusk
Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musks-twitter-account-am-considering-taking-tesla-private-at-420-1533661152

spose he cld argue he was just super stoned

stock should've risen to 6.9%

There had been reports that Musk met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman during his recent visit to the U.S.A. but Musk tweeted on May 22nd that he did not in fact meet with Bin Salman https://t.co/SAsvkyYD6C

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) August 7, 2018

wish i knew how to short a stock

trading suspended

lol this guy is such a putz

wish i knew how to short a stock

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same. I regret not shorting zynga many moons ago. However shorting can blow up in your face if you make the wrong call. gambling lol.

did this guy just commit some kind of fraud or is he just an idiot

if the first then the second

wish i knew how to short a stock
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same. I regret not shorting zynga many moons ago. However shorting can blow up in your face if you make the wrong call. gambling lol.

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 11:28 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah so as i understand it you borrow the stock, then sell it, then buy it and return it when it goes in to the toilet. i guess that if instead the stock blows up then you'd be on the hook for huge sums of money (which I'm obviously not good for) so i guess no one would allow me to do so anyway

Elon is the poo rman's Ray Kurzweil