the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Northern Ireland is like a different country to them.

Is Prince Phillip

— Royal Funeral® Watch (@GrieveWatch) July 20, 2018

whoever wins... we lose

He has a good 40 years left in him.

Thank you Nick Berry

Worst people rule means he’ll be kicking long after the oceans have evaporated.

fuck is it 5pm yet

Been reading The March of Folly and the parallels with the Brexit lunacy and how Britain lost the American colonies is striking. Everyone knew it was utter madness, it was seemingly politically impossible to stop it. eg

Americans were the settlers and colonizers of a territory deemed so essential that its loss would spell ruin, but the British wall of superiority precluded knowledge and promoted fatal underestimation. Meeting it during the peace negotiations, John Adams wrote, “The pride and vanity of that nation is a disease; it is a delirium; it has been flattered and inflamed so long by themselves and others that it perverts everything.”

as all know, the dying george v was helped on his way by a massive morphine injection, so that the obits would run first in the important and respectable morning papers and not the more salacious evening rags

so now i'm imagining the entire family ramming larger and larger syringes into the scrawny and bent but stubborn torso, to no effect

‘this isn’t even... my final forrrrrrm’

http://is-a-cunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/philip-2.jpg

Brilliant quote, stet.

History has a way of repeating when you refuse to learn from it, cf Edward Carson in 1921:

What a fool I was. I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power. And of all the men in my experience that I think are the most loathsome it is those who will sell their friends for the purpose of conciliating their enemies, and, perhaps, still worse, the men who climb up a ladder into power of which even I may have been part of a humble rung, and then, when they have got into power, kick the ladder away without any concern for the pain, or injury, or mischief, or damage that they do to those who have helped them to gain power.

A big death just a day after they opened that massive sarcophagus dug up recently? The realest curse my dudes.

Fiona Bruce is wearing a baby pink news jacket, Phil lives.

weekend ruined, thanks phil you immortal lizard-man

Boris Johnson has been my second-top trend on Twitter for a few days now, despite having only a few thousand tweets about him. Has he literally paid for enhanced exposure?

my brain now answers all such questions with "THEY DRANK THE TOMB JUICE"

on my twitter:

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thankfully no fucking BoJo!

Etymology of sarcophagus practically demands you drink the tomb juice

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stir in a little gelatin for the al dente effect

Right, so Vince Cable missed a very important vote to oppose Brexit in the Commons last week because he was at a secret meeting about forming a new centrist Remainer political party?

you could not make it up.

Forming 'centrist' political parties is the opiate of The Worst.

if there’s one thing this country needs more of it’s centrism

I almost admire his complete dearth of conviction politics tbf, he makes Gove look like a driven ideologue. But lol, what a complete fucking risible arsewipe!

if there’s one thing this country needs more of it’s centrism

― BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 21 July 2018 21:55 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

no

if there’s one thing this country needs more of it’s dads

yes

what this country needs right now is Mcat 2.0!

GHB?

I'd say I haven't done it 15 years, but apparently the very same psychoactive drug is present in red wine, albeit in much smaller quantities!

i did it once quite recently and had to be dragged into a taxi and deposited in my bed at the other end.... allegedly! (I have no memory of anything after taking it although my state has been alluded to several times since)

my brother once walked into a McDonalds and took a piss on table whilst on it, and somehow managed not to get arrested!

thankfully, my concern has mostly been around how loudly i was snoring while i was out.

although since it was around a bunch of gays that could do you enough reputational damage.

Can’t read the whole piece but this is from today’s Sunday Times:

In a survey that will spark unease in Downing Street, the YouGov poll found that the public believes Boris Johnson, the former foreign secretary, is better placed to negotiate with Brussels and lead the Conservatives into the next election.

It highlights how voters are polarising, with growing numbers alienated from the two main parties. About 38% would vote for a new party on the right that was committed to Brexit, while 24% are prepared to support an explicitly far-right anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party.

One in three voters are prepared to…

...bring back Hitler, one assumes

oh apparently it’s vote for a new anti-brexit centrist party

"with growing numbers alienated from the two main parties"

Election '17 was the biggest turnout in percentage and numbers of the electorate in 25 years, and support for the 2 main parties at '92 levels as "black-death" UKIP support cratered. But yeah, let's try and push the Tories even further to the right before the bacilli has even become airborne again, eh YouGov?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROz-DWP4q5nwv8rp8FkelFRauP8hg8ZB5_z7tXFPksI0okY19t

I think this once popped up on an earlier incarnation of this thread. This 4th form hubris in dashed off essay form might not have aged well, but it might give some insight into how well things are going to go with our current Brexit negging hotshot!

britannia sat on some sort of ducking stool and just about to pull the lever

christ what a lineup of shitheads (tesco ceo included obv)

to make case for Chequers, Government needs to emphasise, believe, & warn on the impact of hard Brexit on factories, companies, and people (eg stockpiling).

But then in trying to claim No Deal is an option it then simultaneously has to downplay all the same.

Not sustainable.

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) July 22, 2018

This is obviously true though with 54% of people, per the ST poll, preferring to remain in the EU rather than take a no-deal Brexit, outlining the implications in full will probably mean an even higher number being pushed towards Remain.

But yeah, let's try and push the Tories even further to the right before the bacilli has even become airborne again, eh YouGov?

Mixed feelings about this - we need to know that this constituency is out there (assuming the poll in question isn't asking dumb leading questions, which is a big assumption). But the last election probably showed the limitations of that approach for the Tories - they hoovered up the UKIP vote but enough of the rest of the country went "fuck no", and would continue to do so - it's just handing votes to Labour.

Then again there are plenty of people in the country who would vote for Robert Mugabe if they thought he'd cut their taxes, although they'd make clear how uncomfortable they were with it.

If the Tories' membership is as small and as decrepit as is reported then the party is absolutely ripe for infiltration by disgruntled centrists* (as are the LibDems) - the fact that hasn't happened suggests that all the new Centre Party stuff is just hot air.

*Although I'm guessing they skew metropolitan and as a result aren't going to have enough influence on Parliamentary selections where it matters.

"assuming the poll in question isn't asking dumb leading questions"

How much more Islamophobia do you want to protect us from TERRORISM? More, More or Kill Them All!

You’ll notice there’s a reference to “religion or belief” as a protected characteristic in there. That is presumably how a claim of antisemitism would be dealt with. However, the Conservative code of conduct does not at any point mention the word “antisemitism” or spell out a definition of antisemitism, IHRA-approved or otherwise.

"Responding to her backbencher on Wednesday, Theresa May said that she agreed all political parties should adopt the full, unredacted IHRA definition – adding that “the Conservative party has done that”."

TM lying about her party's stance on antisemitism at PMQ, and nothing to see here.

EDL marched in my home town this weekend, because there's plans to build a new mosque. Think they mostly came from out of town as usual.