Replacing a substation with batteries doesn’t seem credible but using them to defer or displace a capital upgrade, eg. a new transmission line or transformer is credible. Tesla’s powerpack commercial battery is a pretty good piece of engineering. The liquid cooling allows them to creat a flexible, modular system that consists of inverter and battery blocks that are the size of an oversized telephone kiosk.
Most other manufacturers aircool and use computer racking, often mounted in shipping containers to hold racks of batteries like servers, with separate containers for inverters etc.
Whose batteries are better depends on the application, duty cycle and how badly Elon wants to do the project.
Fun fact Tesla uses Samsung cells in powerwalls and power packs when they can’t make enough of their own.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 20 July 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
I think Latham is referring to using storage to decommission natural gas peakers, in Oxnard specifically:
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/ugc/articles/2018/07/17/declining-battery-storage-costs-raise-questions-about-the-role-of-natural-gas.html
― sleeve, Friday, 20 July 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
probably should take this to the energy thread but w/e
I’m seeing a lot of RFPs from public agencies interested in deferring capital investments or decomissioning peaker plants by using some combo of batteries and distributed generation resources. Dunno how viable any of the solutions are but there’s def a big demand for this stuff, and tons of people are rushing to fill it. Ed’s info seems good as far as I understand this stuff.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 July 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/07/18/south-portland-residents-balk-at-cmp-substation-expansion-plan/
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
extremely good ceo has a normal one
One of Tesla’s biggest anonymous trolls/shorts has been doxxed as an investment manager heavily invested in the oil industry.He has now deleted his Twitter account, which he used to promote his blog posts about Tesla and attack anyone saying anything that could be perceived as positive on Tesla, after Tesla CEO Elon Musk reportedly called his boss to complain about his behavior.We are talking about ‘Montana Skeptic’ who has been using Seeking Alpha, a financial blog aggregator, and Twitter to push the bear case on Tesla for the past 3 years.
He has now deleted his Twitter account, which he used to promote his blog posts about Tesla and attack anyone saying anything that could be perceived as positive on Tesla, after Tesla CEO Elon Musk reportedly called his boss to complain about his behavior.
We are talking about ‘Montana Skeptic’ who has been using Seeking Alpha, a financial blog aggregator, and Twitter to push the bear case on Tesla for the past 3 years.
https://electrek.co/2018/07/24/tesla-troll-short-doxxed-oil-industry-musk-calls-boss/
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:25 (five years ago) link
Highlighted the wrong part imo.
― how's life, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link
what, the 'heavily involved in the oil industry' part?
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link
Last night I dreamt that Elon Musk was in charge of mitigating, via his supposed technological wizardry, the end of the world, which was occurring via a great flow of lava across the entire earth's surface, but he kept messing it all up with self-aggrandizing schemes akin to the Thai cave rescue submarine fiasco, as humanity gradually succumbed to the molten rock.
― brain (krakow), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link
'heavily involved in the oil Energon industry'
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/3/3c/EnergonCubesCartoon1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070120063926
― how's life, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/07/30/elon-musk-meets-with-his-pr-team
― o. nate, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
extremely good social media company has a normal one
Twitter has implemented a new method for combating cryptocurrency scammers: it now automatically locks unverified accounts that change their display name to Elon Musk. If you have a non-verified account that is not associated with a phone number, changing your display name to that of the SpaceX and Tesla CEO will result in an immediate lock out. Twitter will then ask you to pass a CAPTCHA test, as well as provide a phone number, to regain access.“As part of our continuing efforts to combat spam and malicious activity on our service, we’re testing new measures to challenge accounts that use terms commonly associated with spam campaigns. We are continually refining these detections based on changes in spammy activity,” a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement given to The Verge. The company declined to comment on whether the measure has been put in place for any other public figure’s Twitter account.
“As part of our continuing efforts to combat spam and malicious activity on our service, we’re testing new measures to challenge accounts that use terms commonly associated with spam campaigns. We are continually refining these detections based on changes in spammy activity,” a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement given to The Verge. The company declined to comment on whether the measure has been put in place for any other public figure’s Twitter account.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/24/17610348/twitter-elon-musk-display-name-change-lock-account-crypto-scams?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link
Everyone with that name is a scammer tbf
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link
tru
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link
all is well with the world again
https://www.stereogum.com/2007418/elon-musk-ends-farting-unicorn-feud-with-lisa-pranks-dad/news/
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 26 July 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
twitter-elon-musk-display-name-change-lock-account-crypto-scams?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
ok lol, missed this yesterday.
Update 6:13 p.m.: Tesla spokesperson Dave Arnold sent along a statement, seemingly confirming some of the situation and, using Skeptic’s real name, said Skeptic’s employer “is a longtime Tesla supporter and was one of the first to purchase a Model S.”
https://jalopnik.com/get-a-load-of-this-ridiculous-story-about-how-elon-musk-1827842961
― how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
today in burlington stink
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-01/tesla-s-phantom-shooter-the-strange-story-of-a-debunked-threat
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
Just posted a $717 million net quarterly loss.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link
how the hell can they be losing money with great ideas like these
If you’re into video game development, consider applying to Tesla. We want to make super fun games that integrate the center touch screen, phone & car irl.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 1, 2018
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
Like Pokemon Go! But with people swerving across motorways....
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
The future is fucking stupid.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
THE STOCK MARKET IS SO RATIONAL!!!
Tesla shares are literally going up and down based on how much of a pissy dickhead and/or phony insincere apologist Elon Musk is on any given day:
Elon Musk makes the ‘most valuable apology of all time’ on Tesla's earnings call
Tesla shares are surging after Elon Musk apologized to Wall Street analysts over his behavior on the company's previous conference call.
Three months earlier, the stock plunged in after-hours trading in response to what Musk called "boring, bonehead questions" from analysts.
This time, Musk showed contrition and Tesla shares surged 8.5 percent in after-hours trading Wednesday, adding about $4.75 billion to the stock's value.
KeyBanc Capital Markets called it "maybe the most valuable apology of all time."
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link
it's all apologies and the promise of magic beans
companies that actually produce a reasonable number of products or have income are boring
― mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
BREAKING: Elon Musk invents device that allows you to play video games instead of speaking to investors
― ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
A fun little breakdown of their current woes.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
starting to get the impression that Elon is getting bored with the idea of cars. just doesn't seem that into cars anymore
― mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, August 3, 2018 10:01 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good read!
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
agreed, thanks
― sleeve, Friday, 3 August 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
need to find a way to convince these vc idiots to give me one billion to flush down the toilet (after giving myself a significant chunk of it)
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 3 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
― mh, Friday, August 3, 2018 11:14 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so elon's midlife crisis is the opposite of normal midlife crises
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
hmm he's still dating progressively younger women, so it's too early to judge
― mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
BUSINESSElon Musk’s Twitter Account: ‘Am Considering Taking Tesla Private at $420’Tesla stock rose 6.3% to $363.56
someone trying to go to jail
@elonmusk Am considering taking Tesla private at $420. Funding secured.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musks-twitter-account-am-considering-taking-tesla-private-at-420-1533661152
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
spose he cld argue he was just super stoned
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
stock should've risen to 6.9%
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link
There had been reports that Musk met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman during his recent visit to the U.S.A. but Musk tweeted on May 22nd that he did not in fact meet with Bin Salman https://t.co/SAsvkyYD6C— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) August 7, 2018
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
wish i knew how to short a stock
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
trading suspended
lol this guy is such a putz
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
wish i knew how to short a stock― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:26 PM (fourteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
same. I regret not shorting zynga many moons ago. However shorting can blow up in your face if you make the wrong call. gambling lol.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
did this guy just commit some kind of fraud or is he just an idiot
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
if the first then the second
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 11:28 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah so as i understand it you borrow the stock, then sell it, then buy it and return it when it goes in to the toilet. i guess that if instead the stock blows up then you'd be on the hook for huge sums of money (which I'm obviously not good for) so i guess no one would allow me to do so anyway
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link
Elon is the poo rman's Ray Kurzweil
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
lmao
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
Buying puts is probably a better/safer idea than just shorting, but I've never actually done either. As John Maynard Keynes said "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
Musk is a fucking idiot
so is Kurzweil
not sure which is richer (I would assume Elon but idk)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
He is a donor to the GOP he can do whatever he wants at this point. The US is but a playground for billionaires, if he wants to wrekt shorters with one illegal troll tweet, he can because they will be damned if the US isn't the land of snake oil vendors.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
which stocks would you short based on idiocy of the CEOs? a buddy thinks the GoPro guy is a doofus.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
the success of gopro is incredible a camera you strap to yr head lol god bless
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link