movies where you disagree w/ the screenwriters on who the 'good guys' are

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any movie where someone has to lower themselves briefly into the horror of normal working life before they realise they are superspecial above it and succeed


Ooh, got any examples? I can only think of the wrestler for some reason where a) he doesn’t really “succeed” spoiler alert and b) it shows the degrading nature of everyday drudgery but doesn’t indulge too much in the exceptionalism/special pleading

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

incredibles prompted it but like this is every movie tbh

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link

Jack Black deserves severe sanctions and probably some jail time at the conclusion of School of Rock. The more interesting character arc belongs to Joan Cusack’s principal although she definitely should lose her job.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 July 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

Haha yes otm

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

Lol

Isora Clubland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

as a teacher I agree 100 pct

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

Yeah agree on School of Rock. I was part of a live read of the script last year and we all were like “...let’s change some lines”

flappy bird, Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

Listening to 2112 for homework = quality education.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

flappy which role did you take?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 July 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

I was given the role of the obnoxious drummer kid. it was fun

flappy bird, Sunday, 22 July 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

I assume there has been a court case and a suspended sentence between the concert and the end credits in School Of Rock

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 22 July 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

And the judge is some kind of indiscriminate fan of both Rush AND Led Zep? Not likely

El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 July 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

yeah good luck finding an older white man who loves those bands

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 July 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

I found Ferris Bueller more insufferable than anyone else in the film

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link

Lost in Translation

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 23 July 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link

ScarJo's husband wasn't a bad guy, he was just trying to work. That's why you're in Tokyo to start with!

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 23 July 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

viewing humperdinck, count rugen and vizzini as the 'good guys' of princess bride is up there with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92yHyxeju1U

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Monday, 23 July 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

There was nothing particularly likeabke or sympathetic about the lead characters in Lost in Translation. Being a bored spouse who moved somewhere for their partner’s high paying job is v 1% problems.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link

uh

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:11 (five years ago) link

Ok I barely remember the plot of that movie so if that’s not a totally accurate rendering for some reason w/e. It was boring.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link

It was a long time ago that I saw it but were we supposed to think that Charlotte's husband was a bad guy or even that she was especially 'good'? I didn't really see it that way.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

he wasn't outwardly dickish but he was thoughtless and selfish iirc

call all destroyer, Monday, 23 July 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

I somehow have never seen Lost in Translation. I remember it coming out, and don't know why I never saw it, 2003 was right when I started going to art houses, it must've passed thru here in a couple of weeks. I remember it came out in August. I've had a copy of it for 2 years, I should watch it this week.

flappy bird, Monday, 23 July 2018 04:49 (five years ago) link

So little is made of the husband that I think that all the romantic confusion is from whitin Charlotte.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 23 July 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

Also the shark in Jaws is mostly minding its own business.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 23 July 2018 05:01 (five years ago) link

spielberg's war of the worlds, where an emasculated tom cruise proves his manhood and parenting skills by killing a half-crazy person.

i'm not saying the aliens were the good guys. but it was aliens.

adam the (abanana), Monday, 23 July 2018 05:11 (five years ago) link

i mean given the situation...

i know he's a failing / deadbeat dad in the beginning but still. end of the world, rules don't apply

flappy bird, Monday, 23 July 2018 05:25 (five years ago) link

speaking of aliens, the bugs in starship troopers are good not bad

mark s, Monday, 23 July 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

the screenwriter is 100% of that view!

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link

The Thing, as well. Who among us hasn't impersonated Wilfred Brimley in a simple effort to escape the planet earth?

Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 July 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link

iirc in pirates of the Caribbean the pirates’ dastardly plan is to... give Orlando bloom a tiny cut on his palm and then immediately die. That doesn’t seem so bad tbh? Kinda cunty of depp et al to put so much effort into preventing that

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Monday, 23 July 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

i think there was consequences for eg knightley as well as bloom but i mean whod weep for a pair of mannequins like em throw in harry potter and youd have done 2003-present cinema a real fuckin favour

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

hero of potc ii and iii is davy jones this is canon

mark s, Monday, 23 July 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

the character known as maverick in top gun is in fact a dangerous maverick

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link

I have vague memories of having to sit through The Beach in the cinema, with a group for someone's birthday. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember it, Leonardo DiCaprio's protagonist character is a terrible guy who cheats on his loved ones, disrupts the status quo not necessarily (intended) in a good way, goes on a drug trip, then offers some holier-than-thou moralising words in the end.

Valentijn, Monday, 23 July 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

also rentons curve in trainspotting

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

Almost everyone in Love Actually is pretty horrible; same goes for most Hugh Granty movies like 4 Weddings etc.

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 July 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

this is because richard curtis is a fucking monster iirc

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 July 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

I feel the format of the thread demands that you have to indicate who you think the good guys are, and whether they’re played by Bill Nighy.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

yes this is key

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

the guy from gattaca who is going to die on his space mission and ruin everything

adam the (abanana), Monday, 23 July 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

The good guy in Red Dawn = the gun registration forms

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 July 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

the good guy in red dawn is the soviet commander iirc

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 July 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

not to be 'hans gruber was right' but hearing the story how the director tricked alan rickman into his death plummet reaction, i feel like the real diabolical villain of die hard was john mctiernan

Philip Nunez, Monday, 23 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

the real villain is the cop who finally regains his confidence enough to shoot people

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 July 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

(also fuck that movie)

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 July 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

Was still reassigned later to the Urkel district

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 July 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

Also the shark in Jaws is mostly minding its own business.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, July 23, 2018 12:01 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the mayor is definitely the real villain in jaws

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 July 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link


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