its good that this thread exists
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
it does keep the liberals v leftists tit for tat shite out of other threads to an extent i suppose
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 July 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
OzyFest is deeply deserving of clowning no matter who is president.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
jim otm
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
was hoping for more "neo-liberal readings of classic poems" but they sputtered out fast.
― ryan, Monday, 23 July 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
For those who’d like to hear Tim Faust’s Health Justice talk and Q&A, audio I recorded is here:
https://soundcloud.com/portlanddsa/tim-faust-talks-to-portland-dsa-about-health-justice
Eventually we’ll have subtitled vid and transcripts up of the event.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 23 July 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/a-neoliberal-nightmare-at-ozy-fest-2018-702600/
― President Keyes, Monday, 23 July 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
This ep is really them at their best. This is what Chapo was made for.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
Agreed
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link
i'll give the episode a listen (i've been more or less enjoying the show lately) but that RS article is embarrassing. i mean, Of Course ozyfest was a godawful idea carried out largely by godawful people (though it would have been nice to see one of these pieces really engage with the fact that some folks who are actually at least somewhat Good like Gillibrand and Cynthia Nixon were there too), so i'm not really sure what was the point of making a huge show of how you totally were trippin balls when you showed up to clown everybody there.
― evol j, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link
drugs are edgy iirc
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link
http://www.ralphsteadmanartcollection.com/images/collections/F&L-Original%20Spread.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link
Why would you listen to a podcast that has Cocaine Intelligence Unit patch for a logo and complain about them talking about drugs?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link
If you're not tried of thinking about the left and electoral politics, another round at The Dig w/ Seth Ackerman and Kate Aronof
https://www.blubrry.com/jacobin/35556306/the-dig-a-new-party-of-a-new-kind/
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link
because i find it entertaining when they talk about politics and find it incredibly tiresome when they talk about their drug consumption
it's pretty simple
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link
Eh this and some mention of purchasing edibles while on the west coast are really the only times I’ve heard them describe their drug consumption in any kind of detail (not a patron subscriber bye so maybe there’s lots more there?)I mean it could be worse. They could be beer nerds who won’t shut up about esoteric micros.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link
bye
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
the drug refs have been few and far between but I agree with bg that the LSD and coke stuff is played out as hell
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
if you're hunter s thompson and it's anywhere between 1965 and 1975, for sure go ahead and mash together hard-nosed politics-beat reporting and colossal drug consumption, it'll be uniquely enlightening
if you're not, don't
is basically how i break it down to an extent
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
otm
For folks interested in the YPG, big new piece in RS suggests they played a role crucial role in pushing back ISIS in Syria than previously reported
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/untold-story-syria-antifa-platoon-666159/
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
*more crucial role
i look forward to trump's message of congratulations to pisspiggrandad
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
that's a great piece simon, thx for posting
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
nice!
I think it's tiring but the drug jokes seem like second-generation mocking of the HST tendencies. I guess it's no more or less meta and navel-gazing than anything else my generation does but "I'm going to get messed up and go to an event like Hunter Thompson, isn't that dumb? *winks at camera*" is kind of played out
― mh, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
ironically addicted to cocaine
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
i might have taken a less jaundiced view of it were it not for the fact that 1) ozyfest is such a mindbendingly surreal event in its own right it kinda didn't need any chemical assistance and 2) matt and will tripping added nothing at all to their retelling - they might as well have taken a handful of cod liver oil instead for all the difference it made
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
spoiler alert: he was tripping on cod liver oil
― mh, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
that explains a lot, i rescind my earlier criticism in light of this new information
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
2) matt and will tripping added nothing at all to their retelling - they might as well have taken a handful of cod liver oil instead for all the difference it made
this is a great point, i mean taking LSD at a huge festival in central park is inconceivable to me, truly horrifying, you'd think if they're gonna do HST cosplay they'd at least incorporate it more into their reporting. it sounds like they microdosed, it added nothing other than "lol... theyre high"
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
― devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
and twitch streaming
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
Taking a museum dose of acid sounds like the perfect way to experience Ozy Fest IMO.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
glad we sorted this out
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
virgil's reddit ama was pretty good: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/91jo95/hello_my_name_is_professor_jordan_peterson_ama/
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link
this new premium episode is fascinating, I hope they do more of these deep dives into American obscura
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
yeah it was greatmichael kupperman’s comics are awesome too
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
Fernando Guerrero8 hours agoI actually like Samantha Bee and Chapotraphouse :(
It's like being stuck between two divorced parents
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link
are they warring??? love bee
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
she has a NEOLIB husband so they rag on that whenever she comes up
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 27 July 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
pretty sure the only thing they've ever ragged on her for (besides a...difference of opinion on satire) is the school segregation thing
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
...which I literally only just learned this second was not actually true lol
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
In what sense is it not true?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
there was a quote from her husband in the NYT
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
I guess not so much "not true" as "open to interpretation if you're feeling charitable"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/samantha-bees-husband-school/
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
She gets lumped into the pointlessness of Stewart/Oliver/etc. attacks (which have become more rare since Chapo has become the socialist Daily Show).
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, July 27, 2018 11:42 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
By this characterization no parent who has ever fought school integration is actually racist or classist. They always come up with rhetoric that gives them plausible deniability.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
I agree that it's unfair to lump in Bee/Oliver/Stewart. I have a better impression of Bee and Stewart than I do of Oliver fwiw.
same
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
I mean Snopes is really going beyond its mandate with that one. Anyone with an inkling about the way NYC schools are zoned and its racial and economic history can see that class and race were the biggest factors in the opposition the the city's plan.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
it's odd that Snopes is mostly addressing a 2017 revival of that story.
― President Keyes, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link