the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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potatoes are poisonous you have to do something a bit more drastic than boiling them to take the taste of the poison away

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

They'll have to find a new nickname, les Rosbifs no more.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link

I find spices, garlic, ginger, onions and tomatoes is alls you need to "cure" boiled spuds.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

Meanhwile Gove is on top of the, errrrrr, flood crisis..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/07/24/michael-gove-releases-beavers-wild-help-stop-flooding/

You've got Gavin Williamson with his owls and now Gove with his beavers.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

Gove is kinda the last guy i'd associate with beavers.

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

that Gove brain at clonking away at full tilt is an awesome force of nature itself!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

Environment Secretary, Michael Gove who helped released the beavers, said: “The beaver has a special place in English heritage and the Forest of Dean.

They've released TWO beavers btw. Homeowners in the South West of England can sleep easier in their beds tonight knowing the risk of catastrophic flooding as been averted for generations to come.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

“gove releases disappointing number of beavers”

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

adequate food? BREXIT DIVIDEND

||||||||, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

.@MattHancock : "The department is working up options with industry for stockpiling medicines, medical devices and substances of human origin in the case of a no-deal Brexit. Obviously there will be a cost for this."

— Health and Social Care Committee (@CommonsHealth) July 24, 2018

Yes - under EU law “substances of human origin” refers mainly to blood and also tissues and organs... so the Health Secretary is referring to the need for blood stockpiles in event of No Deal Brexit pic.twitter.com/05OgYrwvNp

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) July 24, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

meanwhile the remoaner massive (source: cafc messageboard) is rapidly coming around to the theory that corbyn is another version of trump. how can i deal with these motherfuckers

imago, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:38 (five years ago) link

threat of gulags > actual gulags > firing squads

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:40 (five years ago) link

Tell them that Chuka Umunna said they should all jump off a cliff.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

ADEQUATE FOOD: The Britannia Unchained Story

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:49 (five years ago) link

Found on the train and submitted without comment, one of the most astonishing things I have ever happened across. pic.twitter.com/KtBHZxtvTO

— John Allison (@badmachinery) July 24, 2018

It's very much worth scrolling down the comments to listen to @mrnickharvey's musical setting of the piece.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link

upminster: 19th C psalm tune or ian dury LP title reference which will win

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link

wtf at the brigadoon reference - are they suggesting that britain becoming a mysterious isolated isle, forever stuck a couple of hundred years in the past and only very occasionally appearing from the mist to contact the outside world, is a good thing?

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

(i know the answer to this already obv)

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

GOHOMEWITHBONNIEJEAN!!!

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

think they must have meant LAPUTA

https://shortstorylongblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/gulliver-laputa.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

"Laputans are… so lost in thought that they cannot function in everyday life unless constantly struck by a bladder full of pebbles or dry peas"

(same tbh)

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link

meanwhile the remoaner massive (source: cafc messageboard) is rapidly coming around to the theory that corbyn is another version of trump. how can i deal with these motherfuckers

So the serious answer is - mention that they're both symptoms of the same problem, low pay, low job secrurity, low sense of life opportunity and poor access to decent education at the bottom, and the decline of the lower-middle class in both economies. Mention that unless these issues are addressed then it'll become harder and harder to preserve the legitimacy of liberal democracy. Stopping Brexit *alongside all this* would probably help (and I'm very sceptical of the Corbyn/Mason line here anyway), but stopping Brexit in and of itself isn't a magic bullet. In fact it just rewinds the clock back to to 2013, except the conditions that created the Leave vote are even more febrile - in effect you'd just be postponing Brexit, rather than cancelling it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

And unless these things are addressed than a real British Trump is almost certain to emerge.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

it's gonna be piers morgan isn't it

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:31 (five years ago) link

(booming matt dc post btw)

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

The Welsh voted for Brexit so I don't know why they're bracketed along with Scotland and 'Ulster' (nice touch that) as "voices counter to our cause". I suppose they're not English, as good as though.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link

dude mae ganddynt eu hiaith go iawn eu hunain

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link

cheers Matt

imago, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

I think SW&U are being addressed by the previous line - it may just not be put together very well.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

'Ulster' exists for rugby purposes only but then CofE hymns so

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

this made me laugh even tho i'm not sure who that is and if he's pleased or cross:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di0XCkcXoAIBkjd.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

thats nobody mark, never u mind

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

he didnt want ye knowing what he looked like anyways

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

lol ok i worked out who it is

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

It's Liam Neeson.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

look the books i read don't have pictures

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

xxxp I’m so glad we clearly went to the same primary school! My other weird “fact” about him as learned in school had to do with him sharing beds with other men when he was on the run.

gyac, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

"arr, they'll never find me in here!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

I am listening to radio 4 and the moral maze today is about "diversity" - think this could be the worst thing on the radio this year, not going to listen, but just wanted somewhere to say fuck that programme and fuck Michael Buerk, think this sort of thing is the pseudo - intellectual underpinning of a lot of what I can't stand about this country

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

it's fucking terrible and Claire Fox is another one for the list.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

gahhhhhh

Donald Trump’s former chief adviser Steve Bannon has been in direct communication with former UK foreign secretary Boris Johnson, as both men plot new moves that could have a significant impact on European politics, multiple sources told BuzzFeed News.

During a visit to London this month, which overlapped with Trump’s working visit to the UK, Bannon spoke glowingly of Johnson in several interviews and urged him to challenge Prime Minister Theresa May for the leadership of the Conservative Party.

A source who spent time with Bannon during the trip said Bannon was in private contact with Johnson while he was in Britain.

It is unclear exactly what the two men discussed, but the source said, “I’m sure they weren’t discussing the cricket scores.”

A former UK government source told BuzzFeed News that Bannon and Johnson have known each other for some time, and exchanged text messages as far back as when Johnson was foreign secretary and Bannon worked in the White House.

When contacted, Bannon would not comment on the record.

Asked to comment on whether Johnson has been seeking advice and guidance from Bannon, or whether Bannon had been encouraging him to launch a campaign for a hard Brexit or challenge May, Johnson’s spokesperson declined to comment.

News of the two men being in direct contact so recently will surprise people in the UK, and it suggests that Bannon’s relationships are deepening with senior politicians in the ruling Conservative Party. Bannon has previously met Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg, who leads an influential caucus of Conservative MPs who want a hard break from the European Union.

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 July 2018 09:53 (five years ago) link

FIzzles posted this excellent article on Twitter btw: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/26/the-free-speech-panic-censorship-how-the-right-concocted-a-crisis

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

oy vey. what a fucking mess. dunno what's worse, the insulting hysteria of claiming a Corbyn-led government would pose an "existential threat to Jewish life" or a flood of fucking dickhead Corbyn supporters as usual replying to the tweet proving casual antisemitism exists there. https://t.co/Eu89NmYFHk

— michael (@Sisyphusa) July 26, 2018

Boom. (Whole thread is worth reading).

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 July 2018 10:49 (five years ago) link

opening tweet neatly sums up where we are and why it's so fucking depressing. my main questions are about how much play this is getting in the public consciousness and whether the answer to that is damaging or at least disheartening for UK Jews.

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 July 2018 10:52 (five years ago) link

there are double standards, and some disingenuous bullshit going on here. But people trying to tell Jews how they should feel about Corbyn are total fucking dickheads.

calzino, Thursday, 26 July 2018 10:58 (five years ago) link

I mean given the escalating far right rhetoric right across the UK at the moment the answer to that is going to be damaging for pretty much any minority.

My suspicion (from the last election) is that there is an election-swinging electoral group (perhaps even a majority now) who vote predominantly on social issues rather than economic ones, which is why this is all potentially so damaging for Labour. No one has managed to win a majority in over 25 years without the support of the socially liberal, as the Tories found out last year.

(Obviously this doesn't take into account self-identifying liberals who as a result never feel the need to acknowledge and confront their own prejudices, and antisemitism is one of the most prominent unacknowledged prejudices).

One thing Labour could do to get this under control would be to expel an absolute fuckton of antisemites, which is the one thing Corbyn seems relucantant to actually do. It's the one thing I can see actually bringing him down at this stage.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:05 (five years ago) link

i've all but given up pointing out the double standards and hidden agendas because i can't bear to stand anywhere near the fuckwit antisemite SWP allies who are making this shit continue. just expel every fucking shithead who can't distinguish between Israel and Israeli governments and let's move on.

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link


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