the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

FIzzles posted this excellent article on Twitter btw: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/26/the-free-speech-panic-censorship-how-the-right-concocted-a-crisis

oy vey. what a fucking mess. dunno what's worse, the insulting hysteria of claiming a Corbyn-led government would pose an "existential threat to Jewish life" or a flood of fucking dickhead Corbyn supporters as usual replying to the tweet proving casual antisemitism exists there. https://t.co/Eu89NmYFHk

— michael (@Sisyphusa) July 26, 2018

Boom. (Whole thread is worth reading).

opening tweet neatly sums up where we are and why it's so fucking depressing. my main questions are about how much play this is getting in the public consciousness and whether the answer to that is damaging or at least disheartening for UK Jews.

there are double standards, and some disingenuous bullshit going on here. But people trying to tell Jews how they should feel about Corbyn are total fucking dickheads.

I mean given the escalating far right rhetoric right across the UK at the moment the answer to that is going to be damaging for pretty much any minority.

My suspicion (from the last election) is that there is an election-swinging electoral group (perhaps even a majority now) who vote predominantly on social issues rather than economic ones, which is why this is all potentially so damaging for Labour. No one has managed to win a majority in over 25 years without the support of the socially liberal, as the Tories found out last year.

(Obviously this doesn't take into account self-identifying liberals who as a result never feel the need to acknowledge and confront their own prejudices, and antisemitism is one of the most prominent unacknowledged prejudices).

One thing Labour could do to get this under control would be to expel an absolute fuckton of antisemites, which is the one thing Corbyn seems relucantant to actually do. It's the one thing I can see actually bringing him down at this stage.

i've all but given up pointing out the double standards and hidden agendas because i can't bear to stand anywhere near the fuckwit antisemite SWP allies who are making this shit continue. just expel every fucking shithead who can't distinguish between Israel and Israeli governments and let's move on.

so obv yes Matt otm

lol we're all gonna die

Anyone knowing the very basics of food production – frankly, anyone who has watched an episode of Inside the Factory on the BBC – would know just how difficult it would be for industry to stockpile food. Most UK factories rely on multiple daily deliveries to keep production, which usually runs 24 hours a day, flowing. Within just 18 to 36 hours without deliveries of ingredients, production in almost all of the UK’s food sector (the country’s largest manufacturing sector) would stop.

Factories couldn’t just step up production before the Brexit date and store the surplus, either. They no longer have much space to store their product: the UK’s highly efficient supply chains work on a “just in time” basis – factories have just enough storage space to manage about a day’s worth of deliveries, as do supermarket depots and the warehouses in the back of stores.

Stockpiling more food would mean industry having to buy or lease vast amounts of extra space, at short notice, and probably at great cost. In practical terms, it would ideally have needed to start spending that money months ago – and it would be serious money. Part of the reason people keep less inventory is that it reduces the amount of money you need to operate. If you increase the amount of stock kept in reserve from a few days’ worth to a few weeks’ worth, businesses across the sector would need five to 10 times the working capital they do now.

Who’s going to pay that? Are we going to require an industry that operates on famously thin margins to prepare for this contingency out of its own pocket? What if it refuses? What if it makes these stockpiles, then we cut a deal?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/26/stockpile-food-no-deal-brexit-dream-on

One thing Labour could do to get this under control would be to expel an absolute fuckton of antisemites, which is the one thing Corbyn seems relucantant to actually do. It's the one thing I can see actually bringing him down at this stage

Expelling members isn't within Corbyn's remit but he has a large part to play in setting the culture of the party and his broad commitment to implementing the IHRA guidelines more or less in full is probably a step in the right direction.

The optics of hedging around whether references to 'Israeli apartheid' or 'constitutional racism', for example, are antisemitic and grounds for expulsion might be poor but idk how they could practically be balanced with the freedom to critique current Israeli government policy that seems hell-bent on proving them right.

Of the three papers who linked up, how many would keep up the editorial line if he were critical of Israel in any substantive way

(Assuming other efforts had been made - guidelines adhered to etc)

oh good, that buzzfeed boris-bannon article notes:

Bannon, who left his role in the White House in August 2017, is eyeing Europe as a new political battleground. He is planning to start a new organization, based in Brussels, to help far-right parties seize control of the parliament of the European Union.

also, dear chumps, don't fund Darren "Dib from Invader Zim" Grimes' charges from the Electoral Commission, surely his billionaire chums who started off rich and are midway through getting a lot richer off Brexit will be paying that anyway, and the rest of us might need all the rapidly devaluing money we can shove under our mattresses next April anyway

(I mean, they could just have left him in the lurch seeing as they are clearly not v nice people, but since he's still banging the Leave drum everywhere and they got him a sweet job at one of those right wing "think tanks" that all share an address and are all on the BBC every 5 minutes, I assume he's sorted)

everything is kind of depressing today

Factories couldn’t just step up production before the Brexit date and store the surplus, either. They no longer have much space to store their product

perhaps Brexit pensioners could Make A Success Of It by giving up their numerous spare bedrooms for communal canned good storage

(I bought a couple of extra 4-packs of tinned staples last week but suspect there is no way I could actually fit more than about 2 weeks' worth of extra food and bottled water in my flat - a bit more if walls of bean cans and rice sacks throughout the living area is the House Beautiful look for next spring

the bf already called me a paranoid lunatic so you don't have to, ta)

brb going to replace my bedframe with tins

brb gonna replace my mattress with hardtack

i for one am looking forward to finding out what it's like to have scurvy

pemmican't moar laik

(I bought a couple of extra 4-packs of tinned staples

Tin staples? Tinned tacks?

i for one am looking forward to finding out what it's like to have scurvy

― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:07 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

blackberries. they're everywhere. they freeze

i for one am looking forward to finding out what it's like to kill someone over who gets the last three blackberries left on the bush

we'll send ye over a few bits lars shall we say....four ships a day?

anybody fancy a sweep on how many years into the Thunderdome we'll be before the last gammon stops blaming Europe for the state of everything?

there's no way they'll ever stop blaming europe, c'mon

got a 5 kg sack of basmati rice coming from Asda tonight, obv to trade for booze when sterling becomes worthless!

looks like i picked the wrong decade to give up snout

but the right decade to give up everything except cannibalism

emaciated gammon in a blackberry and nettle reduction that's good eatin'

you can really taste the racism

Brexit grumble, bramble crumble,
Steve Bannon, canned gammon, jelly bean, boom!

Kate Hoey had a unanimous vote of no confidence from her CLP so hopefully the next election will be her last.

like I've previously said she could have a fantastic voice-over artist career outside of politics, such is the piercing timbre of that wonderful voice.

or she could finally join UKIP, which would be her natural habitat tbf.

Excellent that, after all the wailing about Momentum-dominated CLPs deselecting 'moderate' Labour MPs, the (iirc) first actual deselection has set off a war between the moderates and Blue Labour.

Utter madness. @KateHoeyMP has been loyal to the Labour leadership, loyal to the Labour manifesto, loyal to her conscience, and has at every stage honoured the referendum result rather than try to subvert it. https://t.co/Xa2NqxFvWW

— Paul Embery (@PaulEmbery) July 27, 2018

The next Labour leadership war was always going to be between the pro- and anti-immigration wings of Labour, so it's not surprising.

Of all the Brexit MPs, Hoey represents the constituency where Remain got the biggest majority. 77.6%!

She should try honouring the wishes of her consitituents sometime.

Some good news at last! But this is the best bit...

Excellent that, after all the wailing about Momentum-dominated CLPs deselecting 'moderate' Labour MPs, the (iirc) first actual deselection has set off a war between the moderates and Blue Labour

that fireman sam Blue Labour guy is another one who seems ever so slightly to the right of this so called broad church!

so many people with Trade Unionist on their profile seem like complete fucking cocks!

Plenty of spare time to do some fox hunting - yoicks, tally ho!

i think -- tho i may be tripping in the heat and my memory futzing -- that hoey also still has some idiosyncratic leftish stances: certainly she used* to be filed alongside the 80s "loony left" london intake alongside corbyn and bernie grant etc)

*yes a v long time ago but i remember being mildly puzzled the first time i saw the company she was now keeping

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I bet the only Tory policy he disagrees with is the closure of fire stations.

Yes, I think she was considered a Leftie at some pointie, now a Rightie.

Similar to Hodge.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di2zzgNXgAA_aSR.jpg

speaking of which, this popped up the other day..

looking at the Paul Embery tweet i notice that the first two of his RTs beneath it are Jordan Peterson and spiked

Douglas Murray in conversation with Jordan Peterson - typical viewing for a self-defined Democratic Socialist.

honest to god something something gulags something something blood pressure something something blue Stalinists

Some potentially positive stuff here:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/27/fake-news-inquiry-data-misuse-deomcracy-at-risk-mps-conclude

Also good that they are going to stop using the term ‘fake news’.

Starting tomorrow!

when gov ministers don't get pumped or resign for misleading parliament they are setting quite a bad example from Westminster, before you even get to shadowy dodgy fuckers like Cambridge Metallica.