In what sense is it not true?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
there was a quote from her husband in the NYT
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
I guess not so much "not true" as "open to interpretation if you're feeling charitable"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/samantha-bees-husband-school/
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
She gets lumped into the pointlessness of Stewart/Oliver/etc. attacks (which have become more rare since Chapo has become the socialist Daily Show).
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
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By this characterization no parent who has ever fought school integration is actually racist or classist. They always come up with rhetoric that gives them plausible deniability.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
I agree that it's unfair to lump in Bee/Oliver/Stewart. I have a better impression of Bee and Stewart than I do of Oliver fwiw.
same
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
I mean Snopes is really going beyond its mandate with that one. Anyone with an inkling about the way NYC schools are zoned and its racial and economic history can see that class and race were the biggest factors in the opposition the the city's plan.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
it's odd that Snopes is mostly addressing a 2017 revival of that story.
― President Keyes, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
The Meghan McCain episode was great
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
I can't believe Amber and Matt made me want to see the Purge movies
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link
ugh I know
― flappy bird, Friday, 3 August 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
I've only seen the newest one - it's good! V obviously made quickly and on the cheap tho
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link
I now feel like I personally know Meghan McCain
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
M McCain stuff reminded of the M McArdle stuff because it's just so bad and stupid that making fun of it starts to become depressing rather than cathartic.
― ryan, Friday, 3 August 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link
It probably should have been a shorter segment, worth it for the reveal of Felix's bone-deep hatred of American protestantism tho
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link
Sure but reading the inner monologue of these people on occasion does help remind you not to slip into any kind of illusion that society is a meritocracy.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link
bone-deep hatred of American protestantism tho
this is a weirdly common thread among a lot of younger trump era leftists. the cultural critique that runs from max weber's "protestant ethic" to christopher lasch seems as much a part of it (perhaps unconsciously) as anything from the marxist tradition.
― ryan, Friday, 3 August 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link
does help remind you not to slip into any kind of illusion that society is a meritocracy.
^fuck yes
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 3 August 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
you have to remember that for people in their mid 30s, a lot of our peers that were churchgoing in their youth and broke away associate the whole enterprise with the heel-dragging on progressive social issues, or in more conservative communities, entrenched bigotrythere are things to admire in the protestant ethic but when your experience started with the satanic panic years and ended during the fight against gay marriage...
― mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link
and tbf the protestant ethic and being a protestant congregant became very different thingsalso, megachurches
Trying the Antifada podcast w/ Jamie Peck and her husband (?) - they’re even worse than Chapo at talking over guests.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 08:26 (five years ago) link
My interview with @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE is in the new issue of @Playboy and if I'm being honest, I'm a little bummed I didn't get to hang for the photoshoot. pic.twitter.com/ygXLZeccrH— Brian Heater (@bheater) August 8, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
xpost yeah I couldn’t get into Antifada. Though another Majority Report producer has one of my favorite new podcasts—Literary Hangover.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link
Brendan posing as Felix? lol
― flappy bird, Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link
I need some new podcast recs this shit doesn’t get me high anymore. For ref I have done:ChapoCumtown (sorry)Street FightKatie Harperthe Dig Intercepted The Adam johnson one about mediaDelete Your AccountDoug HenwoodMic Dicta
Maybe I should try that Mike Racine one about the mob? I listened to the Matt Christian ep and it was good.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
I didn't care for it. Racine and the co-host/producer are Cumtown-adjacent in style.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link
Nostalgia Trap has some good episodesGeneral Intellect Unit The Joe Rogan Experience
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link
bret easton ellis podcast is p good for film discussion, repetitive hysterical Hollywood liberals rant, great interviewer (when he has a good guest)
― flappy bird, Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:23 (five years ago) link
If you don't mind solo podcasts, Champagne Sharks is good. Struggle Session has its moments. I keep meaning to check out Season of the B.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link
The Joe Rogan Experience
*spit-take*
― a space stewardess (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link
lmao
https://i.imgur.com/x3thKLY.png
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
loool
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 9 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
hahahahahaha amazing
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 August 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
The Hope Never Dies author is in town for a book reading at Powells this week, too
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link
MH, if you’d like pod recs, try these:
Trashfuture (UK)Boonta Vista (Aus)Michael & Us (Can)Swampside Chats (from the Communist league of Tampa)Zero Squared (from Zero Books)Giving the Mic to the Wrong Person (slight bias for this one)Little BeruitAufhebunga Bunga (UK)Dead Pundits SocietyHellaBlack PodcastThis is Hell!Against Everyone with Conner HabibAgainst the Grain (from KPFA)Pod Damn AmericaCurrent AffairsThe Michael Brooks ShowToo Long 4 TwitterBeast CoastLeft Coast49th Parahell (Can)The Discourse, with BJ Sutton
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
Oops, that was directed at man alive, not mh
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
I’m gonna stick to american public media’s “marketplace”, thanks
― mh, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
Eww
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
Cool list, kingfish. I really like the Michael Brooks Show. Lots of discussion of African and South American politics. the Chapo guys show up on there often.
― President Keyes, Friday, 10 August 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link
god the QAnon segment with Will Sommer was dizzying in its descriptions of cascading stupidity
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
Yeah reading about conspiracy theories self-destructing/spiraling out of control like that makes me alternate between despair and relief.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 10 August 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
More Qanon/Patriot Prayer coverage with Jared Holt here,who was mentioned in the ep:
http://49thparahell.libsyn.com/episode-seven-holt-the-phone-with-jared-holt
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 10 August 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
Nice: https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/bonus-interview-with-parquet-courts-a-savage
― flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
I find it funny how unobjectionable the Vice interview was. Like, almost anyone on Rolling Politics would have given similar answers (except maybe on the Mueller stuff). They've gone soft already!
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
I couldn't really get into the Parquet Courts interview, felt like reading a Spin or Voice article from the late 90s. Did it get more interesting as it went on?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
not really. their efforts to branch out into sports/music/etc episodes generally bore me though
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link
Sort of reminded me of the value of actually good and well-listened music writers because I really felt like they were fumbling around trying to sound intelligent while talking about the whole death of rock/rock revival thing, which had SO much written about it at the time.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
I dug it because I _was_ a budding rockcrit/writer back then.
Also, the bits about how we’ve replaced a language of aesthetics with one of moralism
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
Actual laughter (not just the usual smirk of recognition) on my commute this morning as Felix extolled, at length, the virtues of the Krassensteins.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link