Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

She gets lumped into the pointlessness of Stewart/Oliver/etc. attacks (which have become more rare since Chapo has become the socialist Daily Show).

I guess not so much "not true" as "open to interpretation if you're feeling charitable"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/samantha-bees-husband-school/

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, July 27, 2018 11:42 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

By this characterization no parent who has ever fought school integration is actually racist or classist. They always come up with rhetoric that gives them plausible deniability.

I agree that it's unfair to lump in Bee/Oliver/Stewart. I have a better impression of Bee and Stewart than I do of Oliver fwiw.

same

I mean Snopes is really going beyond its mandate with that one. Anyone with an inkling about the way NYC schools are zoned and its racial and economic history can see that class and race were the biggest factors in the opposition the the city's plan.

it's odd that Snopes is mostly addressing a 2017 revival of that story.

The Meghan McCain episode was great

I can't believe Amber and Matt made me want to see the Purge movies

ugh I know

I've only seen the newest one - it's good! V obviously made quickly and on the cheap tho

I now feel like I personally know Meghan McCain

M McCain stuff reminded of the M McArdle stuff because it's just so bad and stupid that making fun of it starts to become depressing rather than cathartic.

It probably should have been a shorter segment, worth it for the reveal of Felix's bone-deep hatred of American protestantism tho

Sure but reading the inner monologue of these people on occasion does help remind you not to slip into any kind of illusion that society is a meritocracy.

bone-deep hatred of American protestantism tho

this is a weirdly common thread among a lot of younger trump era leftists. the cultural critique that runs from max weber's "protestant ethic" to christopher lasch seems as much a part of it (perhaps unconsciously) as anything from the marxist tradition.

does help remind you not to slip into any kind of illusion that society is a meritocracy.

^fuck yes

you have to remember that for people in their mid 30s, a lot of our peers that were churchgoing in their youth and broke away associate the whole enterprise with the heel-dragging on progressive social issues, or in more conservative communities, entrenched bigotry

there are things to admire in the protestant ethic but when your experience started with the satanic panic years and ended during the fight against gay marriage...

and tbf the protestant ethic and being a protestant congregant became very different things

also, megachurches

Trying the Antifada podcast w/ Jamie Peck and her husband (?) - they’re even worse than Chapo at talking over guests.

My interview with @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE is in the new issue of @Playboy and if I'm being honest, I'm a little bummed I didn't get to hang for the photoshoot. pic.twitter.com/ygXLZeccrH

— Brian Heater (@bheater) August 8, 2018

xpost yeah I couldn’t get into Antifada. Though another Majority Report producer has one of my favorite new podcasts—Literary Hangover.

Brendan posing as Felix? lol

I need some new podcast recs this shit doesn’t get me high anymore. For ref I have done:
Chapo
Cumtown (sorry)
Street Fight
Katie Harper
the Dig
Intercepted
The Adam johnson one about media
Delete Your Account
Doug Henwood
Mic Dicta

Maybe I should try that Mike Racine one about the mob? I listened to the Matt Christian ep and it was good.

I didn't care for it. Racine and the co-host/producer are Cumtown-adjacent in style.

Nostalgia Trap has some good episodes
General Intellect Unit
The Joe Rogan Experience

bret easton ellis podcast is p good for film discussion, repetitive hysterical Hollywood liberals rant, great interviewer (when he has a good guest)

If you don't mind solo podcasts, Champagne Sharks is good. Struggle Session has its moments. I keep meaning to check out Season of the B.

The Joe Rogan Experience

*spit-take*

lmao

https://i.imgur.com/x3thKLY.png

loool

hahahahahaha amazing

The Hope Never Dies author is in town for a book reading at Powells this week, too

MH, if you’d like pod recs, try these:

Trashfuture (UK)
Boonta Vista (Aus)
Michael & Us (Can)
Swampside Chats (from the Communist league of Tampa)
Zero Squared (from Zero Books)
Giving the Mic to the Wrong Person (slight bias for this one)
Little Beruit
Aufhebunga Bunga (UK)
Dead Pundits Society
HellaBlack Podcast
This is Hell!
Against Everyone with Conner Habib
Against the Grain (from KPFA)
Pod Damn America
Current Affairs
The Michael Brooks Show
Too Long 4 Twitter
Beast Coast
Left Coast
49th Parahell (Can)
The Discourse, with BJ Sutton

Oops, that was directed at man alive, not mh

I’m gonna stick to american public media’s “marketplace”, thanks

Eww

Cool list, kingfish. I really like the Michael Brooks Show. Lots of discussion of African and South American politics. the Chapo guys show up on there often.

god the QAnon segment with Will Sommer was dizzying in its descriptions of cascading stupidity

Yeah reading about conspiracy theories self-destructing/spiraling out of control like that makes me alternate between despair and relief.

More Qanon/Patriot Prayer coverage with Jared Holt here,who was mentioned in the ep:

http://49thparahell.libsyn.com/episode-seven-holt-the-phone-with-jared-holt

Nice: https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/bonus-interview-with-parquet-courts-a-savage

I find it funny how unobjectionable the Vice interview was. Like, almost anyone on Rolling Politics would have given similar answers (except maybe on the Mueller stuff). They've gone soft already!

I couldn't really get into the Parquet Courts interview, felt like reading a Spin or Voice article from the late 90s. Did it get more interesting as it went on?

not really. their efforts to branch out into sports/music/etc episodes generally bore me though

Sort of reminded me of the value of actually good and well-listened music writers because I really felt like they were fumbling around trying to sound intelligent while talking about the whole death of rock/rock revival thing, which had SO much written about it at the time.

I dug it because I _was_ a budding rockcrit/writer back then.

Also, the bits about how we’ve replaced a language of aesthetics with one of moralism

Actual laughter (not just the usual smirk of recognition) on my commute this morning as Felix extolled, at length, the virtues of the Krassensteins.

I see them doing a bit of book promo: Will on Blogging Heads with a somewhat skeptical Robert Wright

Gonna try the audiobook (free via audible trial, obviously) and see how far I get

not really. their efforts to branch out into sports/music/etc episodes generally bore me though

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, August 20, 2018 12:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm still kinda surprised more ppl on this thread weren't mad they had PFT Commentor on but i guess just chalk it up to not knowing enough about Barstool & their past toxic misogyny stuff...

https://people.com/sports/espn-host-sam-ponder-slams-barstool-sports-sexist-essay-calling-her-slut/