Is the West Experiencing a Left-Wing Drift? (the international left politics activism, news, and strategy thread)

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retweets are not endorsements ok https://pastebin.com/FBRF3VhG

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

The struggle could begin with…establishing permanent camps in the swampiest, most isolated parts of the Everglades—areas seldom penetrated by tourists. This would not be difficult.

visionary

devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

truly a "how many levels of communism are you on" document

devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

Train the gators to be foot soldiers of the revolution

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

that is amazing

sleeve, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

and like, the running bit on left twitter is investigating whether it's an extended joke or if there are actually like 3 dudes swimming through north florida right now with red hats on

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

in other news, this strikes me as a fair piece even if the people representing the no-endorse view are some of my least favorite online types

https://splinternews.com/the-democratic-socialists-of-america-s-cynthia-nixon-di-1827894468

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

Well, the Communist League of Tampa is a thing...

https://communistleaguetampa.org

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

Always nice to learn there are levels of online I'm not on

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

love too be in a popular front movement

https://i.imgur.com/yMgyu2K.png

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

i got invited to a friend's bbq on may day and thats when i learned they were down with PLP and im like GIRL nah (the copies of the challenge should've been my first clue)

21st savagery fox (m bison), Friday, 27 July 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

yo did i ever tell you about the time a PLP "cell" in San Antonio (this is actually what they called themselves) invited me to join their underground cadre and i left because i was so weirded out

my pals invited me to a party and then not long after i got there like the music stopped and everyone turned to face me and my bud was like "well we should probably tell you, we invited you to a party, but really, we wanted to invite you to join the party" and i was like uhhh i'll think about it

ultimately i broke with them because i was weirded out but also my friend was like "the black panthers were racist" and i was like gtfo im an anarchist now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

Wow A+

devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

this is when i was barely 19 years old!! what a life

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

this should really go in the conservative opinions thread but the fact that a lot of young people are getting into leftist politics is great, but the amount of them - on the internet at least - who are getting into anti-revisionistt, marxist-leninism is a real downer

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

Way overrepresented online, imo

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

yo did i ever tell you about the time a PLP "cell" in San Antonio (this is actually what they called themselves) invited me to join their underground cadre and i left because i was so weirded out

my pals invited me to a party and then not long after i got there like the music stopped and everyone turned to face me and my bud was like "well we should probably tell you, we invited you to a party, but really, we wanted to invite you to join the party" and i was like uhhh i'll think about it

ultimately i broke with them because i was weirded out but also my friend was like "the black panthers were racist" and i was like gtfo im an anarchist now

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, July 27, 2018 6:24 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is there more than one PLP group in SA bc im pretty sure this is the same group.

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 28 July 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link

or, there are some people who were probably still in it back then that are in it now

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 28 July 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link

Wild!!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 28 July 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link

On a related note, there’s a nice convo here between Derick Varn and JM Colón about this stuff, like DSA as a leftist org, how civility norms can work to prevent things from sliding into Leninist shit, all the culty sects that form, and, at one point, Bordiga.

http://zero-books.net/blogs/zero/symptomatic-redness-jm-colon-on-the-dsa/

(Plus they do give my own show a shout-out late in the episode)

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 28 July 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link

Leftist film youtuber Lindsey Ellis posted this(w/ the help of Natalie from ContraPoints)

Wish she hadn't gone for Adorno :/

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 28 July 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link

I liked this, from the end of this profile of McElwee and the Abolish ICe movement:

The prospect that Abolish ICE will continue to figure prominently during the midterms has lead to angst among Democrats over whether the stance will damage them with swing voters. A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 69% of Republican voters viewed the agency positively, while 63% of Democrats viewed it negatively.

“These activists have become incredible effective in forcing their issues to become litmus tests,” said one Democratic strategist working on several races the party is hoping to turn from red to blue. “We are in a weird position. We are all so certain we’re going to win that they are willing to ask for things no matter the jeopardy it puts candidates in.”

McElwee said that he thinks those fears have been overstated, and he will stake his future on midterm success. He requested that BuzzFeed News put this on the record: If the Democrats do not flip the House, he will stop writing about or engaging with politics.

“I think there has to be some sort of accountability, and I wish the people who supported the Iraq War had done this ahead of time,” he said. "If I’m that off in how I understand politics and my theories of change, I should just stop doing it.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stevenperlberg/abolish-ice-sean-mcelwee

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link

I also wish the neocons had done that, but I don't think it's a good idea to stake your activism on whether some suburban Republicans finally stop voting like dickheads

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

the gingrich cohort were all about term limits until they got in power and changed their mind. when mcelwee says these sorts of things in a world which enforces no consequences on blatant hypocrisy and lies, there's no cause to trust him.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 July 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

Man, this campaign advert from Michigan is a helluva thing:

Thousands joined @BernieSanders and I yesterday as we called for a government for the people, by the people.

We are #DoneWaiting for that to be a reality. Tomorrow, we make our voices heard.

Hop on the 📞 TODAY so we can cross the finish line strong: https://t.co/0jj6eg8bwG pic.twitter.com/xuidWG8DJ6

— Abdul El-Sayed (@AbdulElSayed) August 6, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 05:05 (five years ago) link

I hope he does well - right now he seems to be polling in third among the Dem governor candidates

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

he had a decent line about that: "it's true, i'm not polling well among people who answer land lines in the middle of the day. the people we're reaching don't tend to be those people."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

that's a killer ad

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

*bernie sanders and me

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

I voted for him today

joygoat, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

Oh fuck I have a pointless and controversy-free primary I’m supposed to vote in, guess I’ll have to go to the dropbox

faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

Looking rough for El-Sayed with 3% in

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

xp I threw a pointless vote to socialist and audiophile Steve Hoffman, can’t bring myself to vote Cantrell in a primary and it’s better than voting Goodspaceguy.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

cantwell

JoeStork, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

Goodspaceguy’s got a beard now!

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

See you next cycle, Al-Sayed.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah, he's a born candidate. I daren't speculate yet just how much his name and religion hurt him.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

On the plus side

BREAKING: Democratic Socialist @RashidaTlaib is the projected winner of #MI13. She will replace John Conyers and makes history on two fronts: she becomes both the first Muslim congresswoman and first Palestinian-American woman ever elected to Congress. https://t.co/g09MTbZ1gg

— Daniel Medina (@dmedin11) August 8, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link

Counterpoint:

According to Israel lobby group ⁦@jstreetdotorg⁩, Michigan congressional candidate ⁦@RashidaTlaib⁩ supports “all current aid to Israel” – that means she supports the bullets & bombs used to kill Palestinian children and their parents in Gaza. https://t.co/TmvKfipDGx

— Ali Abunimah (@AliAbunimah) August 8, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

lmao calling JStreet an "Israel lobby group" as if it's not closer to JVP than AIPAC

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

Liz from Leeds is my nu-god

Last week when @AyoCaesar was on The Wright Stuff, Liz from Leeds rang in to explain communism and it was beautiful. 😍😍 pic.twitter.com/OJoCHicuey

— Novara Media (@novaramedia) August 9, 2018

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 August 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link

novara crew are going to need a better line on the USSR etc. than that

ogmor, Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

Are they?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link

if only stalin had had more revolutionary zeal

ogmor, Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

I don't really think it's up to present-day communists to answer for past regimes any more than it is present-day capitalists' job to answer for [insert major war or other foreign misadventure of your choice]. It's a dumb line of argumentation.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

I agree but that doesn't make no true scotsman arguments convincing

ogmor, Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

liz from leeds i luv u

a space stewardess (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 August 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

made this while bored at work
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10160621854435304&set=a.98630175303&type=3

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgflip.com/2fzdto.jpg

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

Ha, is that from an actual Misfits show?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link


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