tipping

wait

why do *we* have a sandbox then

not all progress happens thru solidarity

(sorry hoos im sorry im sorry)

also is the service charge a stepping stone towards "the price is the price" because even listing service charge is a sad excuse of responsibility for running a business imo

i have my own methodology for assessing how much to tip

if you don't want to tip, you shouldn't have to, though

i hold nothing against those people

the current system of tipping in north america is not good though

I mean I hate tipping too and wish the US would completely do away with it, but I don't believe in dicking over service people for me to make a point and which also benefits me that I get to keep my money. On my fb feed at least, it's all the white women in top tier US cities who are going bonkers about anyone "messing with their money" (talking about doing away with the tip system).

The US is just basically impossible, because you can't even talk about changing most things when healthcare is so expensive and wrapped up in employers. And who cares when workers may no longer be entitled to their tips anyway.

No. The way to end tipping is to vote in living wages for everyone, one jurisdiction at a time, or a national living wage law that doesn’t allow for local exemptions for tipped employees. The latter won’t hold up in court, though, because our federal judiciary branch is being packed with drooling idiot right-wing stooges, so let’s go with the former. Of course, machine politicians like my local fucking city council members will try and kill any living wage ballot initiatives that do pass, so we need to replace them as well. But deems is right, we choose to live in this system, just like front-of-house staff choose to do that job.

Also anybody who thinks I get my opinions from Twitter will be punched in the neck and genitals.

its better than getting them from me tbh

that was a sidemouth, lest anyone is waiting for me to break character at this stage

Tom, both at once, or one after another?

^^^ i was also wondering this

found a meme for u
https://i.imgur.com/uUo85UN_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

I mean I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's fucked up. That ain't my fault. It would appear to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. If you show me a piece of paper that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit you're givin' me, I got two words for that: learn to fuckin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big fuckin' surprise.

creative, outside-the-box posting there, calstars

xpost ok which one of youse didn't put in?

what a horrible and heartless post. fuck you calstars.

DC takes it next level by not recognizing crappy Tarantino dialogue

Cultureless swines

🐷 🔥 🥓

two words/learn to fuckin type is a great line tho

hahaha okay lol sorry calstars

tho i think posting that without any signposting that it's not an opinion you share does sorta invite a "fuck you" from the uninitiated

Thats what dmac and i are here for

To initiate ilxors

#irishgang

You shoulda heard calstars on the Madonna thread.

lol

i love tipping now that i can afford it. usually i do 20% but with Uber or whatever i will leave a $5 tip on a $13 ride.

everyone should have to work a job at some point in their lives where their pay is directly related to appeasing the customers. there should be a draft for the service industry.

Oh god pplains I just nearly lost it at work

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-tipping-technology-20181130-story.html

Social norms around tipping are shifting in the U.S., thanks largely to the widespread adoption of technology that puts tipping front and center when paying for a coffee, a trip in a taxi or ride-share vehicle, or food delivery. The payment systems, which ask customers if they wish to leave a gratuity, are pushing people to tip more frequently and more generously for services they may have skimped on before.

so all this time yeve been all this singing and dancing and fuckin stiffin throughout

I was just reading this Lifehacker piece on hotel etiquette, and they ask the woman who wrote the new book "Maid" (which is worth your time - full title "Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive ") what a guest should tip, and she suggests $10 per person *per day*, which seems crazy.

https://lifehacker.com/this-is-the-proper-etiquette-for-leaving-a-hotel-room-1833411570

maid of money

I am staying in a self-booked hotel for the very first time in 2 months and it never even occurred to me that I should tip, and I read that and was like "oh dear"

$10/day/person = $60 for my bf and I Friday to Monday????

I was reading that this morning too and thought it was crazy. But I have also read that Heads in Beds book that someone left at my place and people tip hotel staff like crazy at the beginning of a stay to get premium service.

Yeah, I remember reading that but I've never seen it actually pan out. Here's a tip I learned from a friend, though: bake cookies or bring treats before a flight and gift them to the flight attendants on the way in, especially during the holidays. *That* sometimes pans out with upgrades and other comped stuff.

But $10 per person per day for a hotel? No way. I rarely make anything close to a mess, always reuse my towels, etc., throw out gross trash somewhere else. No way am I stripping beds, folding towels, vacuuming, dusting, fluffing pillows or whatever *and* tipping $10 a day per person in advance of the maid coming. The social contract is I pay for a room, I am not a slob, and I tip a couple of bucks a day.

Oh, I sat next to a super clean cut guy with a Yale sweatshirt on that had every single attendant come up to say hi to him. I finally asked what was going on and he told me he always brings attendants Godiva chocolates to thank them for their work in the hopes of getting bumped up. It works when they have the space. ( I assume it also depends on the person).

The heads in beds book thought really says it's the front desk that has all the power in getting free booze and food sent up if they don't have the ability to upgrade rooms and taking a bunch of stuff off the end bill, late check out, etc. But it's funny it was interesting when he was describing the whole bell hop culture.

Wasn't there a whole section on Brian Wilson?

OH yeah, there was that one random part about him.

Yeah, I remember reading that but I've never seen it actually pan out. Here's a tip I learned from a friend, though: bake cookies or bring treats before a flight and gift them to the flight attendants on the way in, especially during the holidays. *That* sometimes pans out with upgrades and other comped stuff.

this feels like "wear a jacket" folk wisdom. all flight upgrades are handled by frequent flyer status and a computer these days.

$5/day is standard for a hotel room in the US. p.s. US tipping culture is vile but what are you going to do?

my gf is a server in a farm to table resto. it's not hyper-expensive but people are usually paying at least $100 a head. they give a good tip out, based on a percentage of the price of the bills given to tables, to their kitchen staff. so when she is bilked by tables with stingy tips - generally of rich people, many of them american tourists, once one of the richest men in the city gave her circa 10% - it ends up costing her money.

In the US, servers’ tax liability is predicated on 8 per cent of their takings. So if a party stiffs then on tips, they lose out twofold.

its a terrible system, agreed

you can also have the uk system of minimum wage and hardly anyone tips any amount. not great either

right but at least there is clarity about who to guillotine under that system

One thing that was pointed out to me is that if you are the kind of person who has their room made up every day (which I do not for various reasons) make sure you tip every day rather than one big sum at the end bc it’s often different crews working on different days ie the person who works Tuesday might not be the person working Thursday

In Ireland, we have a minimum wage and everyone tips now anyway

cos of TV and that probably

I mean not for insane stuff like pouring a drink into a glass

pretty much always did tip tbh

lookit we're just better we prob oughtnt rub it in

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/15/travel/ipad-tipping-gratuity.html

It was 2015 when I first began to grapple with tipping when ordering at a counter-service restaurant. I had ordered a fried chicken sandwich at Pine State Biscuits in Portland, Ore., and a friend chided me for not tacking on a gratuity to my credit card payment. I hadn’t even considered it.

https://www.grubstreet.com/2020/07/tip-50-percent.html

Tip at least 50 percent. Tip 75 percent. Tip 100 percent. What’s stopping you? Do you need to save that money for the vacation to Saint-Tropez you’re planning on taking once this is all over? If you can afford to go to a restaurant right now and have a leisurely meal — because you don’t need to save as much money as you can? — then, yeah, you can afford it.

Steal a car. Divorce your mom. What's stopping you? You like your "Freedom" and want to go home for the holidays? Well cry it up big baby. Nobody cares about you and no one is coming to save you. Time to hunt and kill an endangered species.