tipping

creative, outside-the-box posting there, calstars

xpost ok which one of youse didn't put in?

what a horrible and heartless post. fuck you calstars.

DC takes it next level by not recognizing crappy Tarantino dialogue

Cultureless swines

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two words/learn to fuckin type is a great line tho

hahaha okay lol sorry calstars

tho i think posting that without any signposting that it's not an opinion you share does sorta invite a "fuck you" from the uninitiated

Thats what dmac and i are here for

To initiate ilxors

#irishgang

You shoulda heard calstars on the Madonna thread.

lol

i love tipping now that i can afford it. usually i do 20% but with Uber or whatever i will leave a $5 tip on a $13 ride.

everyone should have to work a job at some point in their lives where their pay is directly related to appeasing the customers. there should be a draft for the service industry.

Oh god pplains I just nearly lost it at work

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-tipping-technology-20181130-story.html

Social norms around tipping are shifting in the U.S., thanks largely to the widespread adoption of technology that puts tipping front and center when paying for a coffee, a trip in a taxi or ride-share vehicle, or food delivery. The payment systems, which ask customers if they wish to leave a gratuity, are pushing people to tip more frequently and more generously for services they may have skimped on before.

so all this time yeve been all this singing and dancing and fuckin stiffin throughout

I was just reading this Lifehacker piece on hotel etiquette, and they ask the woman who wrote the new book "Maid" (which is worth your time - full title "Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive ") what a guest should tip, and she suggests $10 per person *per day*, which seems crazy.

https://lifehacker.com/this-is-the-proper-etiquette-for-leaving-a-hotel-room-1833411570

maid of money

I am staying in a self-booked hotel for the very first time in 2 months and it never even occurred to me that I should tip, and I read that and was like "oh dear"

$10/day/person = $60 for my bf and I Friday to Monday????

I was reading that this morning too and thought it was crazy. But I have also read that Heads in Beds book that someone left at my place and people tip hotel staff like crazy at the beginning of a stay to get premium service.

Yeah, I remember reading that but I've never seen it actually pan out. Here's a tip I learned from a friend, though: bake cookies or bring treats before a flight and gift them to the flight attendants on the way in, especially during the holidays. *That* sometimes pans out with upgrades and other comped stuff.

But $10 per person per day for a hotel? No way. I rarely make anything close to a mess, always reuse my towels, etc., throw out gross trash somewhere else. No way am I stripping beds, folding towels, vacuuming, dusting, fluffing pillows or whatever *and* tipping $10 a day per person in advance of the maid coming. The social contract is I pay for a room, I am not a slob, and I tip a couple of bucks a day.

Oh, I sat next to a super clean cut guy with a Yale sweatshirt on that had every single attendant come up to say hi to him. I finally asked what was going on and he told me he always brings attendants Godiva chocolates to thank them for their work in the hopes of getting bumped up. It works when they have the space. ( I assume it also depends on the person).

The heads in beds book thought really says it's the front desk that has all the power in getting free booze and food sent up if they don't have the ability to upgrade rooms and taking a bunch of stuff off the end bill, late check out, etc. But it's funny it was interesting when he was describing the whole bell hop culture.

Wasn't there a whole section on Brian Wilson?

OH yeah, there was that one random part about him.

Yeah, I remember reading that but I've never seen it actually pan out. Here's a tip I learned from a friend, though: bake cookies or bring treats before a flight and gift them to the flight attendants on the way in, especially during the holidays. *That* sometimes pans out with upgrades and other comped stuff.

this feels like "wear a jacket" folk wisdom. all flight upgrades are handled by frequent flyer status and a computer these days.

$5/day is standard for a hotel room in the US. p.s. US tipping culture is vile but what are you going to do?

my gf is a server in a farm to table resto. it's not hyper-expensive but people are usually paying at least $100 a head. they give a good tip out, based on a percentage of the price of the bills given to tables, to their kitchen staff. so when she is bilked by tables with stingy tips - generally of rich people, many of them american tourists, once one of the richest men in the city gave her circa 10% - it ends up costing her money.

In the US, servers’ tax liability is predicated on 8 per cent of their takings. So if a party stiffs then on tips, they lose out twofold.

its a terrible system, agreed

you can also have the uk system of minimum wage and hardly anyone tips any amount. not great either

right but at least there is clarity about who to guillotine under that system

One thing that was pointed out to me is that if you are the kind of person who has their room made up every day (which I do not for various reasons) make sure you tip every day rather than one big sum at the end bc it’s often different crews working on different days ie the person who works Tuesday might not be the person working Thursday

In Ireland, we have a minimum wage and everyone tips now anyway

cos of TV and that probably

I mean not for insane stuff like pouring a drink into a glass

pretty much always did tip tbh

lookit we're just better we prob oughtnt rub it in

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/15/travel/ipad-tipping-gratuity.html

It was 2015 when I first began to grapple with tipping when ordering at a counter-service restaurant. I had ordered a fried chicken sandwich at Pine State Biscuits in Portland, Ore., and a friend chided me for not tacking on a gratuity to my credit card payment. I hadn’t even considered it.

https://www.grubstreet.com/2020/07/tip-50-percent.html

Tip at least 50 percent. Tip 75 percent. Tip 100 percent. What’s stopping you? Do you need to save that money for the vacation to Saint-Tropez you’re planning on taking once this is all over? If you can afford to go to a restaurant right now and have a leisurely meal — because you don’t need to save as much money as you can? — then, yeah, you can afford it.

Steal a car. Divorce your mom. What's stopping you? You like your "Freedom" and want to go home for the holidays? Well cry it up big baby. Nobody cares about you and no one is coming to save you. Time to hunt and kill an endangered species.

i had to look up who wrote this. It did not disappoint.

Is this journalism

So I went to pre-order the El-P reissue of Fantastic Damage on vinyl. On the final page of the checkout process, there was a prompt to "Show Your Support for the Team at Fat Possum Records" with options to include a 5%, 10%, 15%, etc. I didn't really want to tip the mail-order guys at the company I'm buying a record from? But I figured if I didn't tip, there was a non-zero chance they would spit on my burger record. So I gave them 5%. But I definitely feel weird about the expansion of tipping outside of the restaurant/personal service sphere. Has anyone else seen anything like this, where there's an online tipping option for something you're just shopping for?

I always ignore those cases. They must know they're pushing the edge with that

Do you guys tip on a pickup restaurant order?

I do. Even though I'm not getting the service that I would normally tip for, I operate on the assumption that the tip is going to someone in a tipped position.

btw, "tip for" should be in quotations because I just automatically leave good tips, regardless of any hiccups in service. You'd have to actually do a shit on my food or something before I left a bad tip.

definitely tip on pickup orders! this has been of extra importance since the pandemic started --- so much more business shifted to pickup, and there was way less business overall, so people who rely on tips experienced enormous income drops.

but it's always been appropriate. i haven't been in the service industry in a decade now, so i'm not sure what would be the current standard, but i'd say at least a buck or two if i'm just getting a sandwich or something, or like 10 or 12% or something like that on a more substantial meal order. not what you'd tip if you sat there and got table service, but enough to acknowledge that you got service, and that that took the time of someone who relies on tips to make their money. because very often, the people putting together to-go orders (and getting them to the front, nicely wrapped with all the condiments and whatnot) are people who are really on the clock to wait tables or tend the bar. so the time they spend taking care of your order is time not spent taking care of their in-person customers. especially if the place is busy and/or understaffed, they really could lose out.

I tip on pickup because usually somebody is reporting those sales and tipping out on it.

Nothing made me more pissed off when a client of mine ran up a huge $300 order at a local restaurant to feed our customer care team, and after hemming and hawing on whether to tip on a meal they paid with w/ their corporate card, stiffed them cos "they might get mad at headquarters if I give a big tip".

Obv I couldn't push back, if I attacked our client I'd have been out of a job. Just wish I had cash to throw in the appropriate tip myself, but alas I did not and there was no ATM.

(fuck that, I have a corporate card and I tip much more when it ain't my money)

if you don't tip on a pickup at a restaurant you run the risk of literally taking money out of the servers' pockets (if they tip out the kitchen on the amount sold, which is not uncommon ime)

yep. it is literally costing them money (in most establishments here at least)