Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

this seems like the wrong thread for this

might I suggest the one about losing a coughdrop in that most sensitive of orifices?

True, sorry

xp

Might be related to the BDSM/Consent article I linked to right before Moonves, related specifically to Eric Schneiderman.

The Moonves/Douglas story, along with everything since Weinstein, makes it seem like women who act don't just "fall off the radar" because of aging but because of stories like these. Since she's mentioned in the article, makes me wonder why Penelope Ann Miller (big on Broadway, then in Carlito's Way et al) faded away.

Ok, makes more sense after reading that. It's definitely a tricky thing to sort out, and perhaps there are cases that represent a legitimate grey area, but I'd say the most straightforward solution is to give much more credence to women who come forward with stories of abuse. We, as a society, are much too eager to buy into this myth of the vengeful woman who wants to sully a good man's name.

Ah, the Schneiderman thing seems like ages ago now.

The Moonves/Douglas story, along with everything since Weinstein, makes it seem like women who act don't just "fall off the radar" because of aging but because of stories like these.

yeah, and then people use the fact that they fell off the radar as "proof" that they must obviously be lying

yeah its a hideous vicious circle

I really like Grace of my Heart

all the men Kool-Aid Manning into the sexual abuse thread to defend sexually dominating women, very cool

ATTENTION BOYS, THERE'S KINK-SHAMING IN YONDER THREAD

Jesus Whiney

90% of the time you accuse somebody of doing something you're literally doing it yourself at the same moment

http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/File:Kam-mugshot.gif

http://images.uncyc.org/commons/0/08/Kam-mugshot.gif

fp'd

wow imagine barging in a thread with the intent of derailing it

Not down with Kool-Aid Man shaming.

can we get back to kinkshaming bigfoot erotica please

"Since she's mentioned in the article, makes me wonder why Penelope Ann Miller (big on Broadway, then in Carlito's Way et al) faded away."

which article?

The Les Moonves article, where Illeana Douglas was working on a CBS pilot with Miller:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/06/les-moonves-and-cbs-face-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/amp

got it

Penelope Ann Miller is on the next season of Riverdale BTW.

Moonves sounds like a fucking asshole only barely better than Weinstein. Surprised it's taking this long to come out.

Here's a shithead of a guy

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/bill-hybels-willow-creek-pat-baranowski.html

“How could he have done all this good when there were such dark things happening behind the scenes?” another accuser, Nancy Beach, who also worked at Willow Creek, asked the Times.

http://www.kuow.org/post/six-more-women-accuse-david-meinert-sexual-misconduct-and-assault

A wrinkle in this case:

Meinert did not respond to more than 50 questions about the allegations made by the newest accusers, despite multiple attempts to reach him. Strategies 360, which represented Meinert during the reporting for KUOW’s first story about Meinert, dropped him as a client after learning one of their employees had come forward to accuse Meinert of sexual misconduct.

I guess this belongs here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html

When I was at Cal in the early 90's Ronnell was a professor there (in the comp lit department) and up-and-coming as a 'celebrity philosopher' the extent that such things exist. I was rather interested in the Telephone Book which is lovely although was mostly incomprehensible to me at the time (probably still would be). Even then on campus there were rumors that she would take particular interest in one graduate student a year and take them on as a lover, or something. Such behaviour was extremely prevalent in the 90's, my guess is a good amount of it was consensual, and a good amount of it probably hinged on these kinds of power dynamics that make things ugly. At any rate, Judith Butler comes across very poorly here IMO.

Big News In Houston: https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/08/omar-afra-assault-accusations/

up until a few days ago, Afra ran a couple of big music festivals and published Free Press Houston, the biggest free Alt Newspaper in the city.

has nobody on earth ever heard of "I have no comment"

that was one of the more bizarre & inscrutable recurring moves last fall/winter. In so many cases (I'd say more than half), the apology/damage control statement actually did more damage than the accusation would have on its own.

Nicki Minaj’s Ex Safaree Accuses Her of Violent Assault

Afra initially responded to the allegations in the comment’s section of Hamilton’s post. Posting under the pseudonym “Samuel Houston,” Afra said he has been “documenting this coordinated campaign for the past 10 months with lawyers, federal and local law enforcement… Much more will come out about this in the coming days, weeks, and months both online and in courts.”

oy

has nobody on earth ever heard of "I have no comment"

― faculty w1fe (silby)

i have no comment

Asia Argento, a #MeToo Leader, Made a Deal With Her Own Accuser

So Aziz Ansari played a small comedy club here in Madison last night, tickets went on sale the day before, absolutely zero press, just an email to the club's list (with the unfortunate header "EXCLUSIVE MEMBER ON SALE"). Presumably the beginning of his "let's see if people still like me?" comeback.

I don't think Aziz will have too much problem

he'll be fine

Louis could probably come back next fall

yup

Also low-key on the road: TJ Miller, Jeremy Piven...

feel pretty bad for the kid in the argento settlement. he's had a rough time on several fronts.

it helps that the Aziz story was... debatable... from the get-go

Miller is possibly not really likable enough to regain what he had, he was already considered trouble before that (and before the fake bomb thing on the train or whatever.). Piven could reinvent himself, maybe start with taking the dead badger off his head and go back to bald.

did the Aziz thing really ruin his career?

Too early to say, but it was definitely not great for his image/persona.

lets wait and see how next season of Master of None does (assuming there is one?)

yea I don't really know if the Aziz thing penetrated the public consciousness the way Louie did, especially b/c Louie's way of being a creep was kind of unique and memorable in a way the Aziz thing wasn't ? but like if he's doing Madison with no press that seems kind of significant, his show in Milwaukee a few years back was huge and sold out pretty quickly iirc

the way that aziz was a creep was so intensely relatable though

I think the Aziz story was way more criticized and was not as widely accepted as others.

i don't think the comparison to other stories matters really -- unless that is what people are using to mentally justify going to see his comedy show

I don't really know if the Aziz thing penetrated the public consciousness the way Louie did
try "permeated" instead of "penetrated" the next time you want to talk about sexual assault
just saying

Louis also wasn't a revelation, the story/stories had been out there for years. and being a creep/perv was a huge part of his act, as opposed to Aziz or Eric Schneiderman, where their public statements/work were completely at odds with what they were accused of. that's much harder to recover from.

huge eyeroll that Aziz's work was completely at odds with what he was accused of