wow imagine barging in a thread with the intent of derailing it
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
Not down with Kool-Aid Man shaming.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
can we get back to kinkshaming bigfoot erotica please
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
"Since she's mentioned in the article, makes me wonder why Penelope Ann Miller (big on Broadway, then in Carlito's Way et al) faded away."
which article?
― akm, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
The Les Moonves article, where Illeana Douglas was working on a CBS pilot with Miller:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/06/les-moonves-and-cbs-face-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/amp
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
got it
Penelope Ann Miller is on the next season of Riverdale BTW.
Moonves sounds like a fucking asshole only barely better than Weinstein. Surprised it's taking this long to come out.
― akm, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Here's a shithead of a guy
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/bill-hybels-willow-creek-pat-baranowski.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 August 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
“How could he have done all this good when there were such dark things happening behind the scenes?” another accuser, Nancy Beach, who also worked at Willow Creek, asked the Times.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 9 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link
http://www.kuow.org/post/six-more-women-accuse-david-meinert-sexual-misconduct-and-assaultA wrinkle in this case:
Meinert did not respond to more than 50 questions about the allegations made by the newest accusers, despite multiple attempts to reach him. Strategies 360, which represented Meinert during the reporting for KUOW’s first story about Meinert, dropped him as a client after learning one of their employees had come forward to accuse Meinert of sexual misconduct.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
I guess this belongs here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html
When I was at Cal in the early 90's Ronnell was a professor there (in the comp lit department) and up-and-coming as a 'celebrity philosopher' the extent that such things exist. I was rather interested in the Telephone Book which is lovely although was mostly incomprehensible to me at the time (probably still would be). Even then on campus there were rumors that she would take particular interest in one graduate student a year and take them on as a lover, or something. Such behaviour was extremely prevalent in the 90's, my guess is a good amount of it was consensual, and a good amount of it probably hinged on these kinds of power dynamics that make things ugly. At any rate, Judith Butler comes across very poorly here IMO.
― akm, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
Big News In Houston: https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/08/omar-afra-assault-accusations/
up until a few days ago, Afra ran a couple of big music festivals and published Free Press Houston, the biggest free Alt Newspaper in the city.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
has nobody on earth ever heard of "I have no comment"
― faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
that was one of the more bizarre & inscrutable recurring moves last fall/winter. In so many cases (I'd say more than half), the apology/damage control statement actually did more damage than the accusation would have on its own.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
Nicki Minaj’s Ex Safaree Accuses Her of Violent Assault
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
Afra initially responded to the allegations in the comment’s section of Hamilton’s post. Posting under the pseudonym “Samuel Houston,” Afra said he has been “documenting this coordinated campaign for the past 10 months with lawyers, federal and local law enforcement… Much more will come out about this in the coming days, weeks, and months both online and in courts.”
oy
― maura, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
― faculty w1fe (silby)
i have no comment
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link
Asia Argento, a #MeToo Leader, Made a Deal With Her Own Accuser
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 August 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
So Aziz Ansari played a small comedy club here in Madison last night, tickets went on sale the day before, absolutely zero press, just an email to the club's list (with the unfortunate header "EXCLUSIVE MEMBER ON SALE"). Presumably the beginning of his "let's see if people still like me?" comeback.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
I don't think Aziz will have too much problem
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
he'll be fine
Louis could probably come back next fall
― flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
yup
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
Also low-key on the road: TJ Miller, Jeremy Piven...
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
feel pretty bad for the kid in the argento settlement. he's had a rough time on several fronts.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
it helps that the Aziz story was... debatable... from the get-go
― Nhex, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
Miller is possibly not really likable enough to regain what he had, he was already considered trouble before that (and before the fake bomb thing on the train or whatever.). Piven could reinvent himself, maybe start with taking the dead badger off his head and go back to bald.
― omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
did the Aziz thing really ruin his career?
― frogbs, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
Too early to say, but it was definitely not great for his image/persona.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
lets wait and see how next season of Master of None does (assuming there is one?)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
yea I don't really know if the Aziz thing penetrated the public consciousness the way Louie did, especially b/c Louie's way of being a creep was kind of unique and memorable in a way the Aziz thing wasn't ? but like if he's doing Madison with no press that seems kind of significant, his show in Milwaukee a few years back was huge and sold out pretty quickly iirc
― frogbs, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
the way that aziz was a creep was so intensely relatable though
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
I think the Aziz story was way more criticized and was not as widely accepted as others.
― Evan, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
i don't think the comparison to other stories matters really -- unless that is what people are using to mentally justify going to see his comedy show
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
I don't really know if the Aziz thing penetrated the public consciousness the way Louie didtry "permeated" instead of "penetrated" the next time you want to talk about sexual assaultjust saying
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
Louis also wasn't a revelation, the story/stories had been out there for years. and being a creep/perv was a huge part of his act, as opposed to Aziz or Eric Schneiderman, where their public statements/work were completely at odds with what they were accused of. that's much harder to recover from.
― flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
huge eyeroll that Aziz's work was completely at odds with what he was accused of
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
there was a huge amount of support on social media for Aziz Ansari after that stuff came out, in a way that didn't happen with Louis due to, I guess, the multiple accusers and admission of guilt in his case.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
Schneiderman's stand-up was next level tho
― President Keyes, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
xxxp ...Master of None ?
xxp and yeah, like I said before, Aziz will be back. his was a unique case, afaik one of the only #MeToo story to be heavily criticized.
xp u know what i mean
― flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
comedians = bad dates
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link
Ansari wrote a book on dating!
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
"maybe start with taking the dead badger off his head and go back to bald."
I've a cousin who is a pub rock/wedding band vocalist/guitarist whose lover paid for his arse-hairs to be transplanted onto his head, or something like that. Earlier my mum was saying he looks so young these days, not even slightly troubled by the creepiness that he has more hair now than when he was 18, and the way he suddenly stopped wearing hats 24/7! I find it troubling that people get past their mid-40's and their biggest worry is how much hair they haven't got. And I get annoyed when actors with a full barnet do fake bald, rather than using a genuine baldy for the role.
― calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
it wasn't a bad film but i was always a bit bummed when STATHAM put a brillo pad up on his dome for The Bank Job.
― omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
here is Statham in The Bank Job:
https://jayfan.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/bankjob12.jpg
but like if he's doing Madison with no press that seems kind of significant, his show in Milwaukee a few years back was huge and sold out pretty quickly iirc
this is how comedians develop material. I've seen Aziz play a basement unannounced at half past midnight to fifty people who were already there, the night before he played a sold-out theatre to 3,191 people.
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, August 20, 2018 8:12 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he's headlining the Orpheum tomorrow
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
i think i must have misremembered,i guess statham growing out the hair he has for that '70s look was just a very formative experience.
― omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
I saw that, but it was literally just announced today. Maybe he'd be doing these 'working out new material' shows anyway, but also seems pretty clear he wants to avoid press.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 August 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link
aziz's low-level brohamminess was both what made that story (which had its problems!) super relatable and open to "what, it's not like she was ASSAULTED" criticism
(insert long rant about how capitalism and the entertainment industry are both inherently mean-reverting)
― maura, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
aziz also had ONE accusation compared to about 74627 accusations against Louis CK going back years. Louis CK will not have a comeback any time soon. Aziz may well.
― akm, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link
Louis CK was part of a larger problem extending back for a long time, since I guess Carlin? Pryor?, which will probably continue forever, is this really bad idea that nightclub comics are the great philosophers and truth tellers of our age
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
duh, Lenny Bruce