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got it

Penelope Ann Miller is on the next season of Riverdale BTW.

Moonves sounds like a fucking asshole only barely better than Weinstein. Surprised it's taking this long to come out.

akm, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

Here's a shithead of a guy

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/bill-hybels-willow-creek-pat-baranowski.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 August 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

“How could he have done all this good when there were such dark things happening behind the scenes?” another accuser, Nancy Beach, who also worked at Willow Creek, asked the Times.


This brings me back to something fgti wondered about: the ties between ambition and sexual malignancy, how the latter fuels the former, and how to separate the accomplishments from the desires driving them.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 9 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link

http://www.kuow.org/post/six-more-women-accuse-david-meinert-sexual-misconduct-and-assault

A wrinkle in this case:

Meinert did not respond to more than 50 questions about the allegations made by the newest accusers, despite multiple attempts to reach him. Strategies 360, which represented Meinert during the reporting for KUOW’s first story about Meinert, dropped him as a client after learning one of their employees had come forward to accuse Meinert of sexual misconduct.

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

I guess this belongs here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html

When I was at Cal in the early 90's Ronnell was a professor there (in the comp lit department) and up-and-coming as a 'celebrity philosopher' the extent that such things exist. I was rather interested in the Telephone Book which is lovely although was mostly incomprehensible to me at the time (probably still would be). Even then on campus there were rumors that she would take particular interest in one graduate student a year and take them on as a lover, or something. Such behaviour was extremely prevalent in the 90's, my guess is a good amount of it was consensual, and a good amount of it probably hinged on these kinds of power dynamics that make things ugly. At any rate, Judith Butler comes across very poorly here IMO.

akm, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

Big News In Houston: https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/08/omar-afra-assault-accusations/

up until a few days ago, Afra ran a couple of big music festivals and published Free Press Houston, the biggest free Alt Newspaper in the city.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

has nobody on earth ever heard of "I have no comment"

faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

that was one of the more bizarre & inscrutable recurring moves last fall/winter. In so many cases (I'd say more than half), the apology/damage control statement actually did more damage than the accusation would have on its own.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

Nicki Minaj’s Ex Safaree Accuses Her of Violent Assault

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

Afra initially responded to the allegations in the comment’s section of Hamilton’s post. Posting under the pseudonym “Samuel Houston,” Afra said he has been “documenting this coordinated campaign for the past 10 months with lawyers, federal and local law enforcement… Much more will come out about this in the coming days, weeks, and months both online and in courts.”

oy

maura, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

has nobody on earth ever heard of "I have no comment"

― faculty w1fe (silby)

i have no comment

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link

Asia Argento, a #MeToo Leader, Made a Deal With Her Own Accuser

pomenitul, Monday, 20 August 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

So Aziz Ansari played a small comedy club here in Madison last night, tickets went on sale the day before, absolutely zero press, just an email to the club's list (with the unfortunate header "EXCLUSIVE MEMBER ON SALE"). Presumably the beginning of his "let's see if people still like me?" comeback.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

I don't think Aziz will have too much problem

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

he'll be fine

Louis could probably come back next fall

flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

yup

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

Also low-key on the road: TJ Miller, Jeremy Piven...

... (Eazy), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

feel pretty bad for the kid in the argento settlement. he's had a rough time on several fronts.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

it helps that the Aziz story was... debatable... from the get-go

Nhex, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

Miller is possibly not really likable enough to regain what he had, he was already considered trouble before that (and before the fake bomb thing on the train or whatever.). Piven could reinvent himself, maybe start with taking the dead badger off his head and go back to bald.

omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

did the Aziz thing really ruin his career?

frogbs, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Too early to say, but it was definitely not great for his image/persona.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

lets wait and see how next season of Master of None does (assuming there is one?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

yea I don't really know if the Aziz thing penetrated the public consciousness the way Louie did, especially b/c Louie's way of being a creep was kind of unique and memorable in a way the Aziz thing wasn't ? but like if he's doing Madison with no press that seems kind of significant, his show in Milwaukee a few years back was huge and sold out pretty quickly iirc

frogbs, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

the way that aziz was a creep was so intensely relatable though

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

I think the Aziz story was way more criticized and was not as widely accepted as others.

Evan, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

i don't think the comparison to other stories matters really -- unless that is what people are using to mentally justify going to see his comedy show

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

I don't really know if the Aziz thing penetrated the public consciousness the way Louie did
try "permeated" instead of "penetrated" the next time you want to talk about sexual assault
just saying

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Louis also wasn't a revelation, the story/stories had been out there for years. and being a creep/perv was a huge part of his act, as opposed to Aziz or Eric Schneiderman, where their public statements/work were completely at odds with what they were accused of. that's much harder to recover from.

flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

huge eyeroll that Aziz's work was completely at odds with what he was accused of

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

there was a huge amount of support on social media for Aziz Ansari after that stuff came out, in a way that didn't happen with Louis due to, I guess, the multiple accusers and admission of guilt in his case.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

Schneiderman's stand-up was next level tho

President Keyes, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

xxxp ...Master of None ?

xxp and yeah, like I said before, Aziz will be back. his was a unique case, afaik one of the only #MeToo story to be heavily criticized.

xp u know what i mean

flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

comedians = bad dates

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

Ansari wrote a book on dating!

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

"maybe start with taking the dead badger off his head and go back to bald."

I've a cousin who is a pub rock/wedding band vocalist/guitarist whose lover paid for his arse-hairs to be transplanted onto his head, or something like that. Earlier my mum was saying he looks so young these days, not even slightly troubled by the creepiness that he has more hair now than when he was 18, and the way he suddenly stopped wearing hats 24/7! I find it troubling that people get past their mid-40's and their biggest worry is how much hair they haven't got. And I get annoyed when actors with a full barnet do fake bald, rather than using a genuine baldy for the role.

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

it wasn't a bad film but i was always a bit bummed when STATHAM put a brillo pad up on his dome for The Bank Job.

omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

here is Statham in The Bank Job:

https://jayfan.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/bankjob12.jpg

but like if he's doing Madison with no press that seems kind of significant, his show in Milwaukee a few years back was huge and sold out pretty quickly iirc

this is how comedians develop material. I've seen Aziz play a basement unannounced at half past midnight to fifty people who were already there, the night before he played a sold-out theatre to 3,191 people.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

So Aziz Ansari played a small comedy club here in Madison last night, tickets went on sale the day before, absolutely zero press, just an email to the club's list (with the unfortunate header "EXCLUSIVE MEMBER ON SALE"). Presumably the beginning of his "let's see if people still like me?" comeback.

― change display name (Jordan), Monday, August 20, 2018 8:12 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's headlining the Orpheum tomorrow

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

i think i must have misremembered,i guess statham growing out the hair he has for that '70s look was just a very formative experience.

omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

he's headlining the Orpheum tomorrow

I saw that, but it was literally just announced today. Maybe he'd be doing these 'working out new material' shows anyway, but also seems pretty clear he wants to avoid press.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 August 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

aziz's low-level brohamminess was both what made that story (which had its problems!) super relatable and open to "what, it's not like she was ASSAULTED" criticism

(insert long rant about how capitalism and the entertainment industry are both inherently mean-reverting)

maura, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

aziz also had ONE accusation compared to about 74627 accusations against Louis CK going back years. Louis CK will not have a comeback any time soon. Aziz may well.

akm, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

Louis CK was part of a larger problem extending back for a long time, since I guess Carlin? Pryor?, which will probably continue forever, is this really bad idea that nightclub comics are the great philosophers and truth tellers of our age

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link

duh, Lenny Bruce

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link

(not to say that the problem was larger than #metoo! i just meant that his fall from grace as perceived harder because so many people had invested all this energy in thinking he was a lot deeper and more meaningful than he was)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

I mean, everyone lives in different whisper circles I guess

maura, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

this story got a little more complicated

I just received this statement from @AsiaArgento in response to the NYT story published late Sunday evening. pic.twitter.com/jAOo7TAULX

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) August 21, 2018

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

It's tough. Obviously I want to believe people who are vulnerable—especially given the way Hollywood's exploitative nature damages so many people. But I have to say, the huge network of bad actors working for Weinstein and the way the insane V1g1l4nt C1t1zen/P1zz4g4te/Q4n0n types who have taken over the comment section of my guilty pleasure blind item site LOATHE Asia give me pause.

maura, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

Louis CK was part of a larger problem extending back for a long time, since I guess Carlin? Pryor?, which will probably continue forever, is this really bad idea that nightclub comics are the great philosophers and truth tellers of our age

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:44 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've seen climate change/"extinction is bad" disbelievers use a Carlin routine to substantiate their beliefs. all this bite size "guy at the bar talking at you" bullshit is extremely easy to digest and they make for perfect encapsulations to people who just want to say "This." and toss a link at you.

omar little, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link


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