US Politics, August 2018: There must be something wrong, please recheck that poll!

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^ The ostrich head codpiece really makes that outfit shine!

OMG!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-bolton-brings-a-nuclear-superhawk-into-the-white-house

His Twitter avatar is a pin showing a red MAGA-style baseball cap reading MAKE DETERRENCE GREAT AGAIN

Nuclear deterence is based on convincing others that you will use your nuclear capability against anyone who does whatever actions you want to deter. The difficulty with this policy choice is deciding what it is you want to deter and whether using hydrogen bombs against the target you are threatening is worth the risk. Because deterrence doesn't work if you aren't willing to back it up.

The problem with nuclear super hawks being in charge of this decision making is that they see far less risk in nuking opponents than anyone else sees. During the 1950s and 1960s the nuclear super hawks in the Pentagon actively urged the USA to strike the USSR preemptively, based on the theory that the USA would lose upwards of 60% of its population from retaliatory strikes, but it was worth it, because our enemy would be 90% destroyed, while we would only be 60% destroyed... meaning VICTORY!!

well, one solution to anthropomorphic climate change would be a nuclear winter that reduces humanity to 6-8 humans sitting around a campfire in Nova Scotia eating mushroom steaks on styrofoam bread and speaking a language called Fakenews.

would be kinda fitting for the Trumps to be the only one to survive it

the dead will envy the long dead

what is groverhaus

have at it

ok this is the Groverhaus thread. it's time we put this shit on twitter for real. no one rational will ever buy an archives account again so pic.twitter.com/kaKIPGTYIV

— none DSA with left beef (@3liza) July 30, 2017

it's essentially a metaphor for the trump presidency manifested as a construction project

btw on the '17 angry democrats' line - the 17th letter of the alphabet is... Q

so those infected with the qanon brain worms are getting very excited about the president signalling to them

apparently he also said he'd visited washington 17 times before becoming president

the undertow of the whirlpool of stupidity just keeps getting stronger

good mourning!

good mourning alfred!

did you know jfk jr isn't dead and has teamed up with trump to take down the deep state?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-the-pro-trump-conspiracy-theory-now-believes-jfk-jr-faked-his-death-to-become-its-leader?ref=home

JFK, Jr.'s hair was so bizarre that it had to be a Russian plot

Qanon ugh the internet is just the worst

Are these people aware that they can just leave their homes and go live in the forest like apes, that wholesale abandonment of the fruits of human progress doesn't have to be some long and drawn-out affair?

Wasn't Qanon the name of the mutant that popped out of the guy's stomach in "Total Recall?"

speaking of mutants

Oh hey, here's Eric Trump faving a tweet with the QAnon slogan pic.twitter.com/zUGAyRegoc

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) August 2, 2018

which is cool because it means that a content-free hoax which has infected the minds of chuds is now affecting the minds of those with access to the highest levels of government, who are now signalling their knowledge back to the chuds

the circle is complete and the eldritch gods are massing at the portal into our dimension, the taste of human souls already in their mouths

This certainly shores up my belief that it would be super easy for someone to gently nudge Trump's followers toward Heaven's Gate Mk 2.

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Wtf is qanon? I am in a state of grace on that one

This certainly shores up my belief that it would be super easy for someone to gently nudge Trump's followers toward Heaven's Gate Mk 2.

Jon, scroll up to bizarro's Daily Beast link and the horror will become clear to you.

here's will sommer's v helpful primer on the whole bugfuck affair: https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-is-qanon-the-craziest-theory-of-the-trump-era-explained

This is the kind of thing that, pre-internet, would've consisted of eleven saddos meeting in someone's basement and who the rest of the world gave not one iota of attention to.

rly miss the days when i had to hear about batshit conspiracy stuff from my fortean times subscription and not, y'know, the president of the united states

Also we open up a discussion about “Q” and why the anger and vitriol by liberals at the mere mention if it really is the fake conspiracy they claim?

— Curt Schilling (@gehrig38) June 28, 2018

Q is real and all the liberals are in on it

Shhhhhhh, they're listening!

agreed, if one is so convinced something is a conspiracy with no merit whatsoever, it would be ridiculous for them to spend large amounts of their time tweeting about it.

"If it's not real then why are they all laughing at us!!!"

"If you're so innocent, then why won't you admit you're not?"

Nuclear deterence is based on convincing others that you will use your nuclear capability against anyone who does whatever actions you want to deter. The difficulty with this policy choice is deciding what it is you want to deter and whether using hydrogen bombs against the target you are threatening is worth the risk. Because deterrence doesn't work if you aren't willing to back it up.

The problem with nuclear super hawks being in charge of this decision making is that they see far less risk in nuking opponents than anyone else sees. During the 1950s and 1960s the nuclear super hawks in the Pentagon actively urged the USA to strike the USSR preemptively, based on the theory that the USA would lose upwards of 60% of its population from retaliatory strikes, but it was worth it, because our enemy would be 90% destroyed, while we would only be 60% destroyed... meaning VICTORY!!

― A is for (Aimless)

there's a bigger problem with nuclear deterrence in the trump administration than the willingness to back it up. it's very difficult to successfully implement a policy when its implementation of any policy is dependent on an administration led by a serial liar who changes his entire set of principles depending on his current misunderstanding of the last thing somebody said to him. there is no reason at present for anybody to comply with the trump administration on anything because there's no evidence that complying will benefit them or that not complying will damage them. the president will gladly denounce you as the worst person in the world and simultaneously demand you receive billions of dollars in tax breaks. as often happens with the current adminstration, current language to describe this phenomenon such as "credibility gap" seem wholly inadequate for describing the scale of the incompetence involved.

in short, if the trump administration wants to go ahead and nuke everybody, they are going to go ahead and nuke everybody, and there's not really anything anyone not named vladimir putin can do to prevent that outcome.

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if Trump really has no friends, explain THIS

Thank you to Chairman Kim Jong Un for keeping your word & starting the process of sending home the remains of our great and beloved missing fallen! I am not at all surprised that you took this kind action. Also, thank you for your nice letter - l look forward to seeing you soon!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 2, 2018

the letter was covered in a white substance

it definitely was once trump was finished with it

dear reader, i'll let you decide for yourself whether it was powdered sugar or jizz

Welp taking a sick day now thanks bizarro

whither the tax returns?

yr welcome, enjoy xp

More on QAnon:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/as-the-bizarre-qanon-group-emerges-trump-rallies-go-from-nasty-to-dangerous/2018/08/01/063ed6f8-9585-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html?utm_term=.7a5b65dea870

Stomach churning

these are fuckers we're going to be dealing with long after Trump is gone

Trump needs to change the tenor of these rallies. With more gatherings coming up this week, he should act immediately, first with a public statement that calls off the anti-media dogs. And then by his demeanor and his words at the events.

Defending press rights — and the safety of journalists — would be a sign of real patriotism, as opposed to hypocritical flag-waving.

That’s a fantasy, of course, given how crucial this coordinated anti-media messaging is for Trump.

Nevertheless, it would be a way for him to show that he is more than just the president of his base. And it should happen before his hands are splashed with blood.

oh good, more 'sir! sir! what about civility, sir!' handwringing

i hate people tbh

trump's desire to show that he is more than just the president of his base is absolutely non-existent - 18 months into his presidency, can we be pls spared any more appeals to a better nature which trump simply doesn't possess

i mean the fact that this qanon is a thing is pretty depressing

We're going to be dealing with the Daily Trump Dump and his followers for years and years. Loses the congress? Trump tweets every day. Loses the senate? Trump tweets every day. Loses in 2020? Trump tweets every day. Leaves in 2024? Trump tweets every day.

We had been dealing with these people before Trump too. Recall the Planned Parenthood shooter.

The GOP will blow dog whistles long after Trump goes back to Sheol

Trump would stop hosting those rallies if the media didn't cover them. Sure, Fox would still be there, but if every other news network turned their backs on him and his chuds, he'd get bored within a month. All he wants in life is to see himself on TV.

trump's desire to show that he is more than just the president of his base is absolutely non-existent

Not true. He's desperate to be seen as broadly loved. He denies his own unpopularity with every fiber of his being. That's why cable news gets so deep under his skin - because they repeatedly remind him that he's very, very unpopular.