The future of Stereolab

sure it is disappointing

but the culture of take down and kill your idols is shite

My 2 cents is that she's always been more of a crackpot than a deep political thinker, but she got a pass because her views tended to align more to the left. She's still a great artist, and I'm not planning to light my Stereolab collection on fire over this.

Also, it may be interesting to discuss, but I'm not sure it was so important as to require several different thread revives.

otm

xp it is counterproductive
that is why i drew the distinction

thanks la lechera appreciated

RED bull dys

As I said on the other thread, maybe do some research on Living Marxism/Spiked/Revolutionary Communist Party and this current turn of events will come as no great surprise.

Rosie Cuckston is one of 'them' too - they are almost a cult.

do some research on Living Marxism/Spiked/Revolutionary Communist Party and this current turn of events will come as no great surprise.

Or just read some Stereolab lyrics.

Looks like not many of their fans have.

Am I the only one who doesn't know who this Peterson dude is?

tom, i dont care.

assumptions are not really a great standing ground

That's OK, lots of Morrissey fans feel the same way about Mozza.

Looks like not many of their fans have.

She's tweeted anti-feminist spiked articles before, she's been going that way for a while

always interesting when successful women decide to become anti-feminist once they've gotten successful.

Can't leave ladders lying about, dangerous.

interesting or disappointing depending on your perspective i guess

yes I meant disappointing obv

there are pockets of this sort of thing in my musical circles and it's always mysterious to me. I'm fb friends with the fellow who is Fuxa and he's a liberatrian as well. He keeps his politics offline though thankfully though one of his friend started threatening me out of the blue one day for being a libtard.

don't really gaf about this. it is funny to read all these dudes declare she is not a feminist now as if that matters at all.

kinda want to make a Stereolab-style song w lyrics from this thread

interesting or disappointing
can't leave ladders lying about
dangerous
depending on your perspective
assumptions are not a great standing ground
assumptions are not a great standing ground

lol good one

What's the gist of Peterson? Trying to work out in my head what on earth Sadier would see in him.

he blows minds by defending hegemony

in the voice of kermit the frog

important point

a muppet in more ways than one

he believes that all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds as long as we leave mediocre white academics in charge of it

Stereolab + JP both profitably recycling old German ideas

ILE thread if you want - The Jordan Peterson Thread

white male academics, because women are the root of all evil, because folklore iirc

also the movie frozen is draining our children of their precious essences or some shit

god yes men, lot of stuff about men.

connection to Spiked stuff via "concern for women and blacks is ruining our communism"

He annoys liberals, that's usually good enough for Laetitia's mates at Spiked.

laetitia sadler

Ward Fowler
Posted: 3 August 2018 at 07:32:45

Stereolab + JP both profitably recycling old German ideas

appreciate this

beyond whatever sadier said it would be nice for people to admit the one human consistency is hypocrisy..i mean, nobody is perfect.

Well, at least we can assume that they keep their Space Age Bachelor Pad clean bucko

"also the movie frozen is draining our children of their precious essences or some shit"

he's right about that

let it go, akm

This might be my most frequently revived thread. (I was posting here way back in 2003?) Amusing that it has now led me to read waaaaaay too much about someone who says "social justice warrior" with a straight face.

Only listening to the demo version of blur’s To The End from now on, she’s not on that one.

the influence of VU on stereolab folk continues (moe tucker's right turn)

ha yeah that's what came to mind for me too. seems like sadier is more of a crank with jumbled political views whereas moe tucker is someone at trump rally wearing a 'lock her up' t-shirt.

I’m reading the wiki article on Jordan and he doesn’t seem that controversial and detached from Sadier’s views?

The way I interpreted his controversial views is that all these political correctedness is meant to divide not to unite and to have people fighting against their “oppresors” which is people in your own community instead of looking up at the real enemy.

Also his counterargument againsr bill c-16 is about the dangers of making political correctedness have legal repercusions. Rather than spreading hate he seems to be concerned about how this supposed unity is actually spreading hate by pilling up people who don’t share my beliefs as enemies. The reaction to his opposition to the bill kind of proves his point?

I know it’s all iffy but I can see Sadier taking his beliefs as the people fighting the people instead on focusing on the real enemy above them.

I realize the rabbit hole you're looking at seems inviting but no.

I mean I don’t really agree with his points but I’m trying to have a pipe dream and see what Sadier sees in his work.

you could start w what article she is talking about in that tweet. has anyone looked into that? cos she was writing about his treatment in a magazine article, rather than specifically supporting any of his ideas. what are the circumstances of this particular interview? she didn't write anything in that tweet about any of his theories or talking points, so really without nailing it down, everyone is free to let their imaginations go wild and pretend LS supports the most hateful thing he has ever said.

i dunno maybe she has written other tweets in support of his actual ideas and not just a single media appearance. i haven't seen any of them. you'd think they'd be all over ILX give the frequency of that tweet being reposted. but no, we don't need context, it's enough to feel that she has done a wrong.

did you miss the multiple mentions upthread of her history of boosting publications with questionable views?

Adam doesn't need a context, it's enough for him to feel posters have done a wrong