The future of Stereolab

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"some credit for outing herself as a hapless boob"

am I too late to say "hapless boob outscillator"

outer hapless décolletage

etc etc

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

if you don't pay attention he just seems like another self-help dipshit

this is true to some extent (I followed a link to a lecture video which was kind of persuasive up until he said something annoying but not all that outrageous or political and I went "huh wait, isn't this that guy ILX are mad at?"), but, the article she was complaining about - if it was the D0rian Lynsk3y one - has a pretty thorough list of reasons he annoys people, and the first few paragraphs before it gets onto that are fairly neutral-to-positive, so...

still, glad she's backpedalled a bit, and of course it's none of my business

(and yes, I was disappointed by the Spiked retweets too)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

Also Spiked/LM types are hardwired to disagree with anything published by the Guardian - and also to support any attack on political correctness from whatever quarter.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

So, she couldn't really help herself tbh.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

I know what I want for Christmas

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

drooling atm

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

why must bleep always find new reasons to separate me from my money

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

The dilemma with these new remasters / colored vinyl bothers me so much. Will the remaster be good? Will there be pressing issues? Will the black vinyl sound noticeably better than the color variation. Will the color variation sell out quickly then be worth 2-3x the black vinyl.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

hi, and welcome to Stereolab

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

Clear vinyl doesn’t have inferior sound quality

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

I already have these on CD

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

Also on Bandcamp where you can get coloured FLACs guaranteed to sound the same as black FLACs.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

black FLACs

This feels like a racial slur, even though I know it isn't.

outside, you're never alone. (Austin), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

Actually I think clear vinyl has *better* sound quality than black vinyl. All vinyl is clear until they put the color in it. or something. I don't know. heard that once

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

The additive that makes it black (graphite?) supposedly gives the vinyl a smoother texture or finer grain or something. So it's claimed, anyway.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

Not graphite exactly, this stuff - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_black

Seems like it might add to durability if nothing else.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

All vinyl is clear until they put the color in it

https://media0.giphy.com/media/26uTsgxxplCBOasmc/giphy.gif

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

Durability of any record is much more dependent how you (and your record player) treat the record than what colour it is.

everything, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

Well there's damage from ill treatment and then there's wear which is unavoidable over time unless you use a laser stylus. Just because one might be potentially more pronounced doesn't mean the other isn't a factor and one that can be minimised.

Anecdotally coloured or clear vinyl often seems to have more surface noise but there can be other reasons for this.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

I replaced / got rid of a glitter Emperor Tomato Ketchup and a gold Transient Random Nose Bursts because they weren't too good fwiw.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

On a more practical level, finding where the tracks are on a clear vinyl Aluminum Tunes will be fun.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

lol

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

So these are going to sell out in less than a week right? Can't afford any of them right now

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

My observation is that the Stereolab vinyl reissues at my local record stores never shift, while secondhand copies of CDs disappear in days.

everything, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

Used copies of the Switched On CDs are usually priced at $5.99 round here btw, though Aluminium Tunes rarely shows up.

everything, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

the vinyl reissues put out by 1972 or whatever are notoriously bad. mastered from CD's iirc. and yeah i've observed the same at record stores here

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link

2008 reissue of Peng! (on Too Pure) has been sitting in my local store for years. And it's not that expensive - $25 I think. I doubt vinyl reissues of the albums are in the works because little demand and CDs so much cheaper. But good on them for reissuing the Switched On discs and I hope they continue with making the extraneous stuff more affordable. Hopefully other stuff that's hard to find on physical format will come out. Like a massive outtakes box and live recordings. There's few bands with such a broad range of unavailable or hard-to-find stuff.

everything, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

I have the Peng! reissue. It's pretty terrible.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link

Of course there's no need to agonise over vinyl sound quality for music released post-1990. Buy a CD.

everything, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link

The range on vinyl is wider, there are some truly great ones and some really bad ones. I think Stereolab absolutely deserves quality vinyl versions.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link

I bought what I assume is the Peng! reissue when I was in London in early 2017. Sounds OK to me but mastered way too quiet - I'm also not as familiar with that record as the others. Best part about buying that (at a FOP) was standing around and a very enthusiastic employee coming up to me and talking about Stereolab. He'd seen them dozens of times going back to the early 90s, recommended Laetitia's new record. Great record store conversation.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

Peng! sounds best played quietly.

everything, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link

A ‘Switched On Vol 4’ would be nice.

The Cavern of Anti-Matter albums sound fantastic on vinyl, particularly the first two.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 08:45 (five years ago) link

black FLACs

and the nightmare fighters

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link

Tim Gane has talked in interviews about wanting to release better vinyl reissues than the awful 1972 ones. The fact that these new ones are coming out through Duophonic has me hopeful that more will follow.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

So I pulled out my vinyl copy of Peng! because I feel like I owe it another listen. I somehow never realized it came with complete liner notes, I believe written by Tim, that discuss the recording process, plus notes on each individual track. I have never seen such detailed making of details from them before. I guess Too Pure did the reissue, I had thought they were defunct. Looking at Discogs, I'm not the only one who thinks it is a bad pressing.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

I've only ever heard Peng from my CD and it's always sounded weird and muted to me, always figured that's just the sound of that record. Like more lo-fi than most of the stuff on Switched-On Vol 1 which I think is older material?

dan selzer, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

Some real interesting stuff in here. Apparently Sterling Morrison is his all-time favorite lead guitarist, he cites Modern Lovers as an influence and says they were consciously trying to sound like MBV on some tracks.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

dan, it does sound pretty muted and low fi, but the vinyl sounds much worse

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

The original CD is crystal clear by comparison

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

The fact that it was Too Pure, not Duophonic gives me hope for the Switched On series

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

I have a Too Pure reissue of Peng on vinyl and it sounds terrible. I love that album but i'd rather listen to it on Spotify. Will buy the remaster if it comes out.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

Watching a bunch of youtubes from the ETK tour. Kind of amazing how well documented it was. That was my favorite version of their live band.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

Saw that tour in New Orleans. So good. Wish I had seen them on later tours too.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

New Cliff variant for your collection.

https://d1rgjmn2wmqeif.cloudfront.net/r/b/107780.jpg

…which I got from the new-look groop website: https://stereolab.ochre.store

Yay web 1.0

Jeff W, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link

This thread and some of the replies within have been one of the few good faith engagements w/this wreath business.

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— Yair Wallach (@YairWallach) August 13, 2018🕸]🐦

Tim, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link

I always had trouble parsing that image. Is he pointing a gun at you, is that a ring, what?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

I always thought it was a gun based on the cover of Peng!
https://archive.beggars.com/wp-content/uploads/Stereolab-Peng.jpg

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

It is the final frame of a already-existing cartoon series where a man's finger turns into a gun and then shoots. The next frame in the series is the band's cover for their album "Peng!"-- German for "bang", I believe

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link


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