L. Cohen or P. Simon, who is the better songwriter

Oh my I really thought Simon was running away with it.

dead guy always has a leg up

did not vote, happy with results

ime experience with any of these kinds of "canonical" matchups (see also the recent RTX vs. Pavement poll), there's a vocal contingent on the thread arguing for one side, and then the silent majority swoops in and votes in massive numbers for the more boring answer. This has happened a lot.

He shall thus be known as 'Interesting' Paul Simon.

Poll results would have been quite different if conducted offline.

“You wouldn’t vote like that to my face”

we couldn’t get enough volunteers to ring up all the ilxors to get their opinion so on here it’ll have to remain

I proudly voted Cohen and am not a lurker, fwiw

i didn't vote bc i didn't agree w/ the premise

The silent majority wasn’t silent just less obnoxious iirc

You guys know exactly what I mean - this small community doesn't really represent the tastes of the real world. Simon would win in a landslide if that were the case, and everyone here knows it.

thx cpt obv

don't recall anyone ever suggesting that ILM polls were any kind of reflection of real world opinions.

I've taken part in four polls of this sort 'in the real world' in the last 24 hours. Can't move for the bloody things.

a poll of randoms/12 CD types would have Simon winning
a poll of sophisticated music fans would also have Simon winning I'd think
then there's the murky lurky middle

I think we'd all feel better if we got back to our Leonard Cohen stage musical

(I would, anyway)

either that or my long-dreamed of Lou Reed/Paul Simon gritty NY 70s buddy cop movie

(Leonard Cohen can play one of their sleazy informants)

a poll of sophisticated music fans would also have Simon winning I'd think

ooh sophisticated music fans!

Can’t believe all these boring flyover country rubes who prefer Leonard Cohen

ime experience with any of these kinds of "canonical" matchups (see also the recent RTX vs. Pavement poll), there's a vocal contingent on the thread arguing for one side, and then the silent majority swoops in and votes in massive numbers for the more boring answer. This has happened a lot.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, August 8, 2018 10:26 AM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this comparison makes no sense. pavement was far more popular and well known that RTX, simon is far more popular and well known than cohen.

Can’t believe all these boring flyover country rubes who prefer Leonard Cohen

― omar little, Wednesday, August 8, 2018 11:12 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we should go to a small town diner to talk to laid off steelworker trump voters about which track off songs from a room is their favorite

pavement was far more popular and well known that RTX, simon is far more popular and well known than cohen.

idk out there "in the real world" yes, but I'm talking about relative to ILM. In both cases the more boring answer (Pavement/Cohen) won, why because corny indie fux00rs

fwiw I didn't vote in the Pavement/Trux poll cuz I honestly couldn't decide, I love them both and they do v different things. But I was not entirely surprised when all the "RTX" posts were followed by Pavement winning handily.

simon is far more popular and well known than cohen

If you're talking audience, then I'm pretty confident more people have heard or own some version of "Hallelujah" at this point than anything by Simon. For whatever that is worth. What is the most iconic/perennially ubiquitous Paul Simon song? "Sound of Silence" or something like that? Are there any Paul Simon songs that, say, a high schooler or middle schooler would immediately know?

"heard or own" is a low bar

idk what Simon's most widely known song is. Mrs. Robinson? Me & Julio?

If you're talking audience, then I'm pretty confident more people have heard or own some version of "Hallelujah" at this point than anything by Simon

uh what? Yes, it's true they -- whoever they are -- may know a song called "Hallelujah," maybe even identify Leonard Cohen, but this is a world where people will think "Paul Simon" and name "The Boxer," "Mrs. Robinson," "Bridge Over Troubled Waters," "You Can Call Me Al," "Me and Julio" and so on.

i don't know guys, a lot of songs, you can call me al or any number of incredibly popular songs you mentioned and many others. like it's not even close simon has many standards.

but i'll dip out and let simon fans jack themselves off about their really advanced tastes in music

Heard or own is definitely a low bar! I doubt many under the age of, I dunno, 30 know much about either artist, so knowing just one song from one of them might be it!

I mean, Cohen's Various Positions wasn't even released in the U.S. when it came out in the early 80s.

A few years later, Cohen accepted an award and said about Columbia Records "I have always been touched by the modesty of their interest in my work."

Which has nothing to do with quality, just popularity.

Giggling at the conspiracy theories explaining why Simon got robbed.

idk what Simon's most widely known song is. Mrs. Robinson? Me & Julio?

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, August 8, 2018 4:24 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

At this point, I'd say 'You Can Call Me Al', actually!

http://simonandgarfunkelnews.web.tv/video/the-sweeney-sisters-paul-simon-bridge-over-troubled-water-webtv__bloizapjrnk

omg watching this again serious lols