Viva hate: the worst Tory big beast

Rhodes-Boyson and Tebbit always reminded me of baddies out of Oliver Twist, these fuckers had their own phenotype

as a tru 80s kid i (...) wd've probably used the phrase "Dickensian grotesques" rather than monsters

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/nevermind_nathan_fillion.gif

precocious 15 year-old literature boy? absolutely

'the political jungle' is obv a metaphor that goes a long way back, but I feel like 'big beasts' is a more recent thing

the UK political jungle circa 1985:

https://i.imgur.com/RyApXH2.png

also wrote lists of bad puns of their names on the cover of my school rough book

i remember looking this up the first time this discussion was had (discussion = "gove is NOT a big beast how can we nail this down", this = when "big beast" first used in this sense)

sadly i can't remember what i googled or what the conclusion was, and am having no luck now

i'm p sure it was used in the 80s tho

Partridge's dictionary of slang has the phrase first noted in the year 2000 but that seems to recent to me also.

too recent obviously

ok lol i found a mid-60s political usage which involves healey but actually refers to a fighter airplane

woot a.j.p.taylor called lloyd george the "big beast of the forest" in English History 1914-1945 pub.1964

the forest?!

tho i think he's quoting someone from lloyd george's own day

Wilson's cabinet in the 60s was stuffed full of big beasts - I think that put subsequent PMs off the idea for a while.

J. C. C. Davidson, former Parliamentary Secretary to
Bonar Law until his retirement and serving Stanley
Baldwin, President of the Board of Trade, in the same
capacity, wrote to me:

10, Barton Street,
Westminster, s.w.i
My dear Max (e.g. Beaverbrook),

It is no news to you I suspect that Harold R. (Rothermere) spent an hour with the Big Beast (1) at the House on Monday. The enclosed (2) appeared on Tuesday in the Mirror. Funny isn't it?

Yours,

David
23/6/21

1: Lloyd George not a term of derision meaning Big Beast of the Forest.
2: Cutting from Daily Mirror

from: THE DECLINE AND FALL OF LLOYD GEORGE

I recently read the Margaret MacMillan book on Paris 1919 and it is full of exquisite character sketches of neocolonialist great power baddies, and the biggest wanker of them all was Lloyd George imo. Not just because he seemed like an overrated big beast and keeps dropping the "n" bomb. Even though he was from a lowly middle class background he seems to have oodles of that insuppressible self belief in his own brilliance, which was something based on some people calling him a wizard!

something something quidditch something something hufflepuff

There's a continuum of zealotry at play here. I'd place Gove at one end, in that his zealotry appears genuine (though bankrupt), with Osborne not too far from him (zealotry being easier when you suffer no consequences), a gap before Cameron, then a big gap and then May, followed by Johnson. Johnson is obv not a zealot for anything other than his own progress and its transparency is (a) revolting and (b) is weakness. May's lack of zealotry (strong and stable) got her to where she is, but the lack of zealotry gave her (moral?) flexibility to try to make war on human rights simply because HRs made her job as Home Sec harder: she is capable of deliberately making the lives of others harder just to make her own life easier.

Apt from todays Graun

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/43c96c1008cfe3b8facd8a487f1dbff2c1eaefb8/29_76_4793_2877/master/4793.jpg

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/43c96c1008cfe3b8facd8a487f1dbff2c1eaefb8/29_76_4793_2877/master/4793.jpg?w=940&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=de89ef567575117d33992e556960b6e3

Rowson's nod to Raymond Biggs still belongs on the UK political cartoons that are bad thread!

So bad

Can confirm this is true from my time working as a producer for BBC London - he’d always ruffle it right before the camera started rolling. All part of his carefully calculated “loveable rogue” persona which things like that viral tea video let him play up to so well. https://t.co/Xo7ch8IqBu

— Jane Bradley (@jane__bradley) August 13, 2018

i feel if you listed his faults in order of badness from vile evil to hmph this would come right at the "very least evil" end, plus the only reason it's bad at all is bcz that hair is attached to his head

I once watched Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in the same Screen on the Green screening as him. I'd like to report that he was making racist jokes throughout but I was sitting too far away to hear.

Whose wife was he with?

the crew of 'the last leg' said exactly the same thing on last Fridays show re boris and his hair before he went on.

That’s been super-well known for years and is partially why I want to crowdfund for a traitor in his inner circle to refill his shampoo bottle with something like Immac.

Floored by @SamuelMoen’s “Theresa May curtsying” series on Instagram pic.twitter.com/aQkWcxhHwl

— Carey O'Donnell (@ecareyo) August 15, 2018

Crucial new ruling: https://news.sky.com/story/amp/labour-mp-and-loyd-grossman-to-speak-at-festival-dubbed-the-tory-glastonbury-11473915

although in the 2nd paragraph Gove is relegated from "Big Beast" to "prominent parliamentarians" status. Someone once got botulism from one of those fucking pointless Lloyd Grossman sauces... just saying like.

They will join a host of Conservative big beasts such as Michael Gove and fresher faces including Jonny Mercer in a bid to attract more young people into politics.

The one-day event on 8 September will be held across eight tents, but with seemingly no music.

um

imagine ozyfest but for even bigger arseholes

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I am interested in Loyd Grossman's career. His Wikipedia page doesn't give me the full picture I seek.

He reviewed Dark Side of the Moon for Rolling Stone!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/dark-side-of-the-moon-255381/

Jet Bronx.

His single was one of the first 'punk' singles to come out in red vinyl. As soon as stocks of the red had gone and only black vinyl was left, it stopped selling.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the Peanut Butter Conspiracy were his favourite band of all time... or else he was in the Ultimate Spinach... something like that anyway.

xp LG reformed Jet Bronx & The Forbidden and played Rebellion festival a few years ago

nothing says 'rebellion' like a sixtysomething gourmand rockin' out

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he could be the worst human, tbh.

I think that's almost certain.

Love him or hate him, you can't not vote for him!

if humanity could learn to ignore a tiresome exhibitionist, the Boris project would have to rely more on his privilege to maintain momentum. So it wouldn't make any difference.

was looking back on Youtube at that moment when for a second it looked like Ian Lavery was going to twat Boris. There is a decent level of pwnage, but it isn't quite as good as I remembered it!

proven by science: m gove not a big beast

One vote shows the scientific community is still divided.

I could imagine Gove taking the light entertainment from hell route that Ed Balls has taken, when he is a political non-entity, very soon!