i loved Kim’s scene with Howard too, he looked like he was gonna pee himself by the time she walked outta there!!
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link
I'm hoping the Hummels just inspired some other scheme in Jimmy's mind, wld hate it if he's just doing job interviews to case places
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link
yeah me too
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link
Scene with Kim going Dark Phoenix on Howard was AMAZING.
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link
(And it wouldn't have ruined the reveal for Brock's poisoning to be explained after the fact.)The lily-of-the-valley reveal is literally the final shot of season 4! When is this apparently necessary ex post facto here’s-how-he-did-it scene meant to take place, at the beginning of the next season? Who cares at that point?
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 07:01 (five years ago) link
would this show be understandable if you never watched breaking bad?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
With a bare minimum amount of intro, I'd say yeah.
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
Yes, absolutely. There are moments where the context of what's to come adds some texture to what's taking place but I don't think it's anything insurmountable. There are scant flash-forward scenes of Saul post-Breaking Bad that might get a little lost in translation (it might help a touch to know how he wound up where he is in the present day), but there's very little in those scenes that directly references the previous show.
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
Like, "Here's the story of how a guy named Jimmy McGill became a guy named Saul Goodman. Have at it." And that's just because the show isn't called Better Call Jimmy. xp to self
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
Wrt the present-day scenes, if you know that he's been a lawyer in the past and that he's now working at a Cinnabon under a fake name, you may be able to piece together the whys and wherefores on your own based on the character's progression on BCS.
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
The lily-of-the-valley reveal is literally the final shot of season 4! When is this apparently necessary ex post facto here’s-how-he-did-it scene meant to take place, at the beginning of the next season? Who cares at that point?
I don't know, man. I'm just saying it could have been explained without "spoiling the reveal" because it could have been explained after the reveal. I'm sure some other changes would have to have been made to accommodate this idea in an elegant way. But I would have preferred it, I think, because I like to know how all the schemes are done.
― JRN, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
I think, if anything, the existence of BCS makes me more exasperated about the Brock handwaving. Saul was directly involved in the poisoning of a child. I need more than 'this happened...somehow!' I mean, I know I'll never get it, and that's okay, but still.
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
(To expand on that thought: after having spent half a decade focusing on Jimmy/Saul as a fully fleshed-out human being, the idea of Saul's casual involvement in something like that bothers me even more when we have basically no idea of how it actually went down/how aware he was of what he was doing/etc.)
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
going to SB anyone who says "Brock" in this thread now
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
It's basically like someone on Mork & Mindy casually mentioning that Fonzie gutted a shopkeeper.
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
basically exactly
lol ok sorry you guys had to use your imagination that once, I think the mechanism of how a child was tricked into eating some berries is the least important part of that plot point Saul is a slimy coward in bb and his small part in the scheme was explained, a scene explaining how Walt delivered the poison wouldn’t change any questions about how to square jimmy with Saul what even is this goalpost shifting Brock
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
BRB, I'm going to propose a Brock spin-off to Gilligan. I'll let y'all know the premiere date ASAP.
(In all seriousness, I have a heightened sensitivity to the plight of kids even in a fictional context, and I will admit to having fretted more than a few times about what became of Brock after what happened to his mother.)
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
I don't think you need any intro at all. You might even be better off without it.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
Any extended Brock discussion needs to go to the Breaking Bad thread ASAP why bcz this digression is now a) pretty off-topic and b) boring the fuck out of me mainly bcz b) tho
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f7/4a/06/f74a06cf26ed5b5e5644ee2233ae1987.jpg
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
Absolutely. It's a better show than Breaking Bad, and probably less stressful / more exciting to watch not knowing anything about where some characters may or may not end up
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
The tensest scene in this one involved a standoff between two parties, one of which we know survives! I’d actually be really interested to see reactions from someone who hadn’t seen bb
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
The one thing that might be tough about watching BCS first is getting through the long stretches where Mike and Jimmy don't interact. But maybe just knowing that it's a prequel series would be enough to give you faith that it all pays off in the end.
― JRN, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
It would be kind of perversely hilarious if BCS were to kill off a BB character.
― Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
Noah Hawley told Gould they should just abandon Breaking Bad and never have Jimmy turn into Saul Goodman
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
that would be cool but also pls don't take storytelling tips from noah hawley, mr gould
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
My inlaws have been watching this on Netflix over the past few weeks and love it; neither had see Breaking Bad and had no idea that BCS was related in any way.
― joygoat, Thursday, 16 August 2018 11:09 (five years ago) link
Needs a spin-off called Brocking Bad imo
― kinder, Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link
^ Gets it.
― Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
IDK if it's "misophonia," or if it's entirely rational that I can't stand hearing other people's mouth/eating noises (esp close-mic'd), but tonight's episode was particularly horrible in that regard.
― naus, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 07:06 (five years ago) link
It would feel extremely disjointed if you didn't have any idea where it was going, like two or three different shows where the main protagonists barely see each other. If it was a standalone show they'd have got Jimmy more heavily involved in the drugs stuff way earlier.
The show in general still feels over-reliant on the audience knowing where it's going but the new season feels a lot less padded out and less dependant on 'OMG it's him!' moments. Killing Chuck probably a wise move at this stage but I wonder whether that was the plan all along.
The problem that won't go away is that other than Odenkirk/Banks (who barely share screen time) there still isn't much in the way of onscreen chemistry between any of the actors - and BB had this in spades. Rhea Seehorn is brilliant in this but I still don't believe in Kim and Jimmy as a couple. Nacho/Gus has potential.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link
It's looking likely that things will not work out well for Kim
:(
― paolo, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
Nice to see Gale again but very fanservicey. This season feels a little directionless with Chuck gone.
― chap, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link
Hands up who thought the rent-a-burglar would turn out to be Badger or Skinny Pete.
― chap, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link
*Raises hand*
― paolo, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
I thought for sure it would be someone we'd seen from BB, yeah. Huell maybe.
― Dr. Goldfood and the Grill Bombs (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 12:06 (five years ago) link
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link
I thought for sure it would be someone we'd seen from BB, yeah.
it was
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
(looks it up) Ah well. I wouldn't have recognized/remembered that dude even if he hadn't spent his entire appearance in this episode traipsing around in the dark.
― Dr. Goldfood and the Grill Bombs (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
Yeah totally didn’t catch that! That’s the first breaking bad recurrence that’s passed me by, but tbf all the characters from that set are kinda anonymous except for Todd & uncle jack
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
who was it
― kinder, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
Some guy called ira who set up the pest control front
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
This week's too uninteresting to post about?
Would like to think a twin Salamanca gunfight could've been written to be as exciting as the their tangle with Hank in BB but knowing they'd survive quells that and maybe it just doesn't suit BCS which seems to excel at pre-conflict tension so much more than the conflict itself.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link
In the courtroom scene, the cut to commercial in the middle of the judge's droning on was so good. My wife had her eyes on her crocheting, heard the abrupt cut and was like WTF?! But with Kim staring a hole in the judge it was perfect.
― WmC, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
realizing that I basically don't give a shit about the meth dealing plotline
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
I mean it's not bad but it isn't really interesting either
I managed to forget the whole Nacho/Gus entanglement and also the Mike/Gus entanglement will someone pls summarize kthx
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link
haha yeah me too maybe that's part of it
the Jimmy plotline is so much more vivid/engaging
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
my memory is Gus bought Mike off with the stipend/fake corporate job, and that Nacho tried to kill Salamanca against Gus's wishes (cuz Gus wants to kill him himself, or something?)
meh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link