Better Call Saul

I don't think you need any intro at all. You might even be better off without it.

Absolutely. It's a better show than Breaking Bad, and probably less stressful / more exciting to watch not knowing anything about where some characters may or may not end up

The tensest scene in this one involved a standoff between two parties, one of which we know survives! I’d actually be really interested to see reactions from someone who hadn’t seen bb

The one thing that might be tough about watching BCS first is getting through the long stretches where Mike and Jimmy don't interact. But maybe just knowing that it's a prequel series would be enough to give you faith that it all pays off in the end.

It would be kind of perversely hilarious if BCS were to kill off a BB character.

Noah Hawley told Gould they should just abandon Breaking Bad and never have Jimmy turn into Saul Goodman

that would be cool but also pls don't take storytelling tips from noah hawley, mr gould

My inlaws have been watching this on Netflix over the past few weeks and love it; neither had see Breaking Bad and had no idea that BCS was related in any way.

Needs a spin-off called Brocking Bad imo

^ Gets it.

IDK if it's "misophonia," or if it's entirely rational that I can't stand hearing other people's mouth/eating noises (esp close-mic'd), but tonight's episode was particularly horrible in that regard.

The one thing that might be tough about watching BCS first is getting through the long stretches where Mike and Jimmy don't interact. But maybe just knowing that it's a prequel series would be enough to give you faith that it all pays off in the end.

It would feel extremely disjointed if you didn't have any idea where it was going, like two or three different shows where the main protagonists barely see each other. If it was a standalone show they'd have got Jimmy more heavily involved in the drugs stuff way earlier.

The show in general still feels over-reliant on the audience knowing where it's going but the new season feels a lot less padded out and less dependant on 'OMG it's him!' moments. Killing Chuck probably a wise move at this stage but I wonder whether that was the plan all along.

The problem that won't go away is that other than Odenkirk/Banks (who barely share screen time) there still isn't much in the way of onscreen chemistry between any of the actors - and BB had this in spades. Rhea Seehorn is brilliant in this but I still don't believe in Kim and Jimmy as a couple. Nacho/Gus has potential.

It's looking likely that things will not work out well for Kim

:(

Nice to see Gale again but very fanservicey. This season feels a little directionless with Chuck gone.

Hands up who thought the rent-a-burglar would turn out to be Badger or Skinny Pete.

*Raises hand*

I thought for sure it would be someone we'd seen from BB, yeah. Huell maybe.

Nice to see Gale again but very fanservicey. This season feels a little directionless with Chuck gone.

I thought for sure it would be someone we'd seen from BB, yeah.

it was

(looks it up) Ah well. I wouldn't have recognized/remembered that dude even if he hadn't spent his entire appearance in this episode traipsing around in the dark.

Yeah totally didn’t catch that! That’s the first breaking bad recurrence that’s passed me by, but tbf all the characters from that set are kinda anonymous except for Todd & uncle jack

who was it

Some guy called ira who set up the pest control front

This week's too uninteresting to post about?

Would like to think a twin Salamanca gunfight could've been written to be as exciting as the their tangle with Hank in BB but knowing they'd survive quells that and maybe it just doesn't suit BCS which seems to excel at pre-conflict tension so much more than the conflict itself.

In the courtroom scene, the cut to commercial in the middle of the judge's droning on was so good. My wife had her eyes on her crocheting, heard the abrupt cut and was like WTF?! But with Kim staring a hole in the judge it was perfect.

realizing that I basically don't give a shit about the meth dealing plotline

I mean it's not bad but it isn't really interesting either

I managed to forget the whole Nacho/Gus entanglement and also the Mike/Gus entanglement will someone pls summarize kthx

haha yeah me too maybe that's part of it

the Jimmy plotline is so much more vivid/engaging

my memory is Gus bought Mike off with the stipend/fake corporate job, and that Nacho tried to kill Salamanca against Gus's wishes (cuz Gus wants to kill him himself, or something?)

meh

Some excellent 'Mike rolling his eyes at someone being an arsehole' in this one

can anyone explain to me, bc i am dense, the deal with Kim & the judge?
why was she going there & hanging out in the first place?

in other news i love it when mike curls his lower lip over his teeth in disgust, i could watch him do it all day. the group therapy takedown was p great.

I think this was the very beginning of the Kim & judge stuff, no explanation yet.

the kim-judge stuff is kind of intriguing because that's where we found jimmy at the beginning of the series. maybe kim backslides and starts going down a slippin' jimmy kind of path? i hope not cause I adore kim, but who knows.

hmm ok good

also can i just say i really dont gaf about the salamanca twins at all

I was appreciating how they were being played more for laughs in the previous couple of eps because unlike say mike or gus their taciturnity comes off as a goofy pose the more exposure we get to it - the doctors reacting to these two idiots refusing to speak for as long as possible was great

Now they’re back to “badass” I’m less interested but I really liked how the shootout was staged

their pointy boots with the jewellery on the tips remind me of elf shoes

why was she going there & hanging out in the first place?

Looking over the model buildings for Mesa Verde's rapid planned expansion last week, she was deeply disheartened at the prospect of all this reliable ongoing employment in corporate lawyering. She's also at a crossroads in her relationship, with not knowing where Jimmy is headed and whether she wants to go there.

So this week she goes to the court to just sit and listen to cases, to see if she will be inspired and see a more fulfilling path for herself returning to defending lots and lots of single-client small cases; actually having an immediate positive effect on people's lives & getting the adrenaline rush of learning the situation quickly and defending on the fly.

Jimmy deciding he wants to be the go-to guy for burner phones feels to me the turning point on the road to Saul Goodman.

so was Mike right about that guy in therapy or what? loved that they left it open and both sides (Mike is an asshole/Mike is telling harsh truths) seemed to hold some validity

They seem to be telegraphing a pretty obvious punch here — therapy guy kills himself or someone else because Mike robbed him of the only way he thought he had to deal with some real pain, Mike says "fuck, I'm a bad guy, might as well live the part" — and I hope they go in a less expected direction. But expectation is a prison, so never mind me.

Finally went to see Incredibles 2 on Monday and was stuck trying to remember whose voice the millionaire sponsor was. Would noramlly have IMDBed it but knew girlfriend would have had a fit if i did so.
Bob Odenkirk as I'm sure you all knew.

Enjoyed that film.

their pointy boots with the jewellery on the tips remind me of elf shoes

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I thought of the extreme turn up point style of Mexican cowboy boots that I think were a fashion sometime around this. I remember it tied in with a Mexican techno/electronica scene and people were sharing videos about it at some point I think was contemporaneous to this. but not 100% sure, I don't think I have a milestone for the exact when.

what was the country song in this episode? I didn't recognize it

Carl Rutherford? dude doesn't even have a wiki entry

My brother-in-law just gave me a USB with this season's episodes so far. I'm in!

Caught up. Pretty good so far--a little slow, but things are moving along. Favourite moments so far: Kim chewing out Howard; the judge's ruse with The Verdict (and Kim's chastened response); Lydia and Mike, every time they're together; the cab driver, yes; and Jimmy's great "That's your cross to bear, Howard" as a prelude to immediately cheering up. I loved that, but I was left wondering who he was angry at--was it Chuck or Howard? Was he sublimating his anger at Chuck by humiliating Howard, or was he simply angry with both and loving that his insurance ploy left one dead and the other wracked with guilt? I thought it was always Chuck holding back Jimmy's career, not Howard, and that Jimmy eventually understood that. Great moment in any event.

At risk of being flayed alive by the hive mind, I'm finding this season a little boring.

It's very... deliberate.

There's a sort of Buffy season six thing going on at the moment, I feel. That was a season-long depression narrative which often came uncomfortably close to replicating the actual rhythms of depression. Jimmy is currently adrift and bored out of his mind, and it feels like they're trying to take the viewer on that same journey in as painless a way as possible (thank christ we didn't have to be present in his skin as he mindlessly bounced a ball against a window for x number of hours). The inspiration he found by episode's end seems to suggest that things will be opening up a bit very soon.

Kim chewing out Howard

man this was brutal