the 1975

yeah the comparisons aren't off but i feel like those two tracks both capitalize on space in a way this doesn't, "m.o.n.e.y." w the vocal syncopation, "the sound" w the prechorus swings out to snap back in at the chorus

*swinging

seems kind of bad, when dorian said they were channeling drake i wasn’t imagining trop house drake of a few years ago... but we already know most of the rest of the album won’t be like this so im not stressed . plus it’ll prob grow on me

uh y'all are on crack, this bangs

feels like it's a minute and a half, just kind of floats along, fun little song

closest antecedent of theirs to my ears is probably "so far (it's alright)"

I admittedly don't listen to a lot of drake, but...drake??

the point about space is well taken but i think this is awesome anyway

Love how you all did everything but actually link the song. :-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9kT5U2izfc

i can see the Drake comparison in terms of the "top line" which is. three. 🎵 notes. 🎶. just those 🎵 three notes. on a slightly different order, and then again. 🎶

this is a little underwhelming, it's a good starting point for something but the killer hook I was expecting never appears and it just floats along without really going anywhere. the lyrics are also pretty bad and not in an endearingly ridiculous way either

I'm a little tipsy and it's pretty early so I don't want to say anything I'm going to regret but.......this song is really good, among their very best

where are deej tim and brad

christ, this is the best band in the world

there was a recent episode of The Ringer's On Shuffle podcast that brought in the Switched On Pop guys (who i'm usually eh on but felt a lot looser here) and they ended up talking a lot about the sort of downfall of dynamism in pop tracks (the rise of chill), and how the metric for quality is a little harder to pick out because of that.

this feels like a track that exploits its lack of dynamic shifts in a really good way (lots of little sonic details and tiny tonal shifts). so i guess i find the drake comparisons understandable but nowhere near as negative as some people are framing it—this is earworm drake, not unmemorable hookless drake.

the youtube video hasn't been made available in Australia :-/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTT1qbKMuo8

this one works in Australia

this song is really good, among their very best

― k3vin k., Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heart u k3v but might this be (tipsy?) hyperbole?

the first two new songs set an impossibly high bar, it's understandable they can't keep that up. this is very much a throwaway, a b-side song though. which is ok.

the lyrics here are 100% fuckboi but i'm extremely into the sound design and it's probably the single i've enjoyed the most from this era so far

xps to austinb, will give that a listen! track's growing on me a bit, i dig how it feels like a fluttering that ends up stuck in a groove for most of it (the color-switching video helps accentuate that probably)

Okay I think this is great.

It’s “throwaway” but deliberately so, the whole point is the layering which is much more intricate than your typical tropical track.

Basically i’m suspecting it will be the third album’s “Talk!”

heart u k3v but might this be (tipsy?) hyperbole?

the first two new songs set an impossibly high bar, it's understandable they can't keep that up. this is very much a throwaway, a b-side song though. which is ok.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:06 AM (three hours ago)

haha def wasn't the tipsiness, I'm quite enamored. I must have played it 20 times already. I'm just so impressed by how well they're able to pull off all these different styles

I get the "throwaway" comment but I don't see it that way at all. an album track, maybe -- but something tells me this is going to sound great in album context

haven't really paid much attention to the lyrics yet, but the lyrics seem like not the point of this song

but something tells me this is going to sound great in album context

I do not doubt this! I think it will, too. As a single, or singled out track, it feels a bit slight to me. But I'm already warming to it so :)

We weren't uh fond of "Love It If We Made It":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=26097

dunno Alfred - looks pretty split!

Matty said that TOOTIME is built around a sped up loop from their collaborative track with No Rome "Narcissist" (that's not out yet) so it'll be interesting to hear the original version of the groove

K4th3rin3 St 4s4ph: “We Didn’t Start the Fire” as told by dudes who hilariously quote “grab ’em by the pussy” on their Tinder profile.

Yeesh katherine you don’t see how these read might be in incredibly bad faith?

Like what in the tone of this song makes you think it’s some sort of winking indulgence in “self-aware” misogyny and not, like, a harrowing look at the depressing state of the world?

yeah I don’t even know where to start with that blurb

but as jordan has said let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls

haha i only consider this thread to have one troll... i never said there could be no dissenting opinions. just that turrican is exhausting, useless and needlessly annoying itt.

i do think katherine severely misreads the song and the band's actual fanbase tho

What are you talking about? I've made absolutely no comment on this new track, or any new track from the forthcoming record. I'm waiting to hear the tracks for the first time in the context of the LP.

Everyone into the pool!

Sure, I have my opinions on their lead singer, and I'm entitled to 'em.

Now, Jordan... you'll notice that I didn't actually feel the need to post anything until you brought me into the discussion - in which case, if you don't like the effects... don't produce the cause!

i do think katherine severely misreads the song and the band's actual fanbase tho

― J0rdan S., Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:12 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this problem has become more pronounced on twitter (going back to tumblr maybe) but there's a definite sense to me that people let who they see on twitter liking something shape their impression of what kind of people like something even if its wholly unrepresentative

not saying that's what's happening w/ katherine per se but the way you phrased this reminded me of this point ... i find it super frustrating but also occasionally funny

that is absolutely a real phenomenon

yeah the 1975's fanbase is the a pop fanbase.... it's mostly younger people, girls especially. at least at the shows i've seen.

there is a list of men I ever want to hear repeat anything from the Billy Bush tape, ironically or not, and that list has zero people on it

also good to see I'm officially a troll for disliking a song

basically, my stance is this, so I guess you can go ahead and call Iain a troll too, as well as the billions of people on earth who have committed the obvious bad faith malice of not liking a song: If you’re singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans for satire, you’re still singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans.

also, please inform me where I have said or implied anything about the band's fanbase? having young and/or female fans does not insulate an artist from being or presenting as an insufferable asshole, and having young and/or female fans does not mean that critics are obliged to only say positive things about a bad record. if anything I like those fans more, because they have not dragged me into a thread calling me a troll on a Thursday afternoon I was previously enjoying.

also good to see I'm officially a troll for disliking a song

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:19 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when ONE person said this another immediately defended you, no one actually thinks you're a troll although i do think you have a weirdly bad faith reading of anyone who doesnt share your opinions

basically, my stance is this, so I guess you can go ahead and call Iain a troll too, as well as the billions of people on earth who have committed the obvious bad faith malice of not liking a song: If you’re singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans for satire, you’re still singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans.

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:28 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is an insane expectation of art that I can't imagine you would hold to many of the artists you enjoy

also, please inform me where I have said or implied anything about the band's fanbase? having young and/or female fans does not insulate an artist from being or presenting as an insufferable asshole, and having young and/or female fans does not mean that critics are obliged to only say positive things about a bad record. if anything I like those fans more, because they have not dragged me into a thread calling me a troll on a Thursday afternoon I was previously enjoying.

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:46 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not saying that's what's happening w/ katherine per se but the way you phrased this reminded me of this point ... i find it super frustrating but also occasionally funny

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:25 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the bad faith readings extend to the band's fanbase itt apparently

someone posts let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls, about a review I posted on an entirely different website, on a thread I have deliberately not been posting in, and yet I'm the one who's a troll?

katherine is awesome, cmon lads.

there is a list of men I ever want to hear repeat anything from the Billy Bush tape, ironically or not, and that list has zero people on it

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:19 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reading this song as flat edgy "irony" misunderstands its effect imo .... the song is a harrowing feeling of being overwhelmed by disgusting popular culture mixed w politics & the current condition, & it captures that feeling in song, i don't think its supposed to be 'ironic', he is not being a mouthpiece for his own point of view (sincere or ironic), he is creating an artistic effect that is reminiscent of being bombarded with fucked up headlines & the entire subtext is "the world feels fucked and the feelings it creates are difficult to wrap your head around but this approximates the feeling" imo

someone posts let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls, about a review I posted on an entirely different website, on a thread I have deliberately not been posting in, and yet I'm the one who's a troll?

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:58 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

literally only kevin, who is obsessed w this band to a near hyperbolic extreme, called you a troll & jordan immediately defended you