Pennsylvania DA releases report on clergy sexual abuse in Philadelphia -- Cardinal Rigali says: Don't read it

Probably their best bet for burnishing their image (apart from a monumental truth and reconciliation effort, as if) is Full Communism

Giant pedo network has been the dominant image of the church for a generation already

in retrospect I guess I had an ok priest because my I was deeply involved with the catholic church when I was a kid...years of daily mass, an extended stint as an altar boy, monstrances, lawn fêtes, incense boats, the whole thing...and my world (although completely the world of a cult) was relatively benign.

but just the idea that other kids had a such a harrowing experience makes me shiver

there was an open letter by some alleged "young catholics" calling for a "cleansing fire" in the church. i thought that was... i won't mince words, using those words is fucking idiotic and if they're the movement for "reform" within the catholic church we can probably do just as well without a catholic church at all, thank you very much.

There are no words to describe how awful this is. My family has always been very devoutly Catholic—all good people with hard lives who have found solace in the religion, which is something I completely understand, putting aside the politics. So this is just gutting—nothing new, but underlines just how extensive the cover up was, how many people were involved.

Anyway, my heart goes out first and foremost to the dizzying number of victims, but I also can’t help but feel awful for my mom and other faithful Catholics, who didn’t deserve to be betrayed and disillusioned in such a brutal way. I think about how poor my grandparents were and how they still tithed and all the while the Church was using their money to cover up for child abusers.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/catholic-church-hired-lobby-firms-block-n-y-kid-rape-laws-article-1.2655010

what the fuck

idk man

what age were you in 1990, because "priests abuse children church covers up without any remorse or shame" is not news to anyone.

i was one year old in 1990.

it's not surprising, just still shocking to think about how coordinated the effort was and how much money was involved in the cover up

i dont understand what is shocking about it unless im to be shocked that you had ppl in yr family shocked by this organisation anytime after 1991

Shocked about that too.

well..
i find that mildly suprising

dont forget the universal abuse of teaching all kids that if they mess up in life they are going to hell for eternity

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports:

Investigators “have evidence that the Vatican had knowledge of the cover-up,” involving priests accused of sexually abusing thousands of Pennsylvania children over decades, state Attorney General Josh Shapiro said Tuesday morning on NBC’s Today show.

“I can’t speak specifically to Pope Francis, but I think the broader issues here with the Vatican knowing about this, with church leaders knowing about it, and the reaction you’ve seen not just from Catholics, but from Americans and people all across the globe, is just a fundamental disappointment and anger at institutions,” Shapiro said.

During his Today show interview, Shapiro did not elaborate on what evidence his office has that the Vatican had knowledge of the cover-up, but the redacted grand jury report released earlier this month contains a couple dozen references to the Vatican.