the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Laura Pidcock was born in the late 80s and has about a year's experience in politics, somehow I don't think she's going to be a leadership candidate next time round unless they're deliberately going for the candidate that least resembles Corbyn.

Meanwhile:

Thread on Brexit, lorry drivers, Chris Grayling and no deal planning. If you think government's no deal planning is all fine and dandy, *read this*. Full story also below. https://t.co/TnqP72S1cn

— James Rothwell (@JamesERothwell) August 15, 2018

lol we're all gonna die

is it possible to have a 2:1 in history from Cambridge and be genuinely as thick as pigshit? Because Grayling never gives the impression of having even one functioning brain cell.

It's a combination of laziness, being way out of his depth, and not being able to brush that off or otherwise convincingly wing it.

The Pidcock thing was a joke, even 3/4 years by the time of the next general election would be too early but there's potential there and going back to mark's post Labour do need to think of successors and get them all the experience. I don't think age is at all a problem for Corbyn but it would look better if there were a bunch of capable, younger left Labour leaders behind him and ready to take over and carry on with the project.

Get them to lay a wreath for a PLO leader would be a bonus but I'm sure that's a minority view.

I find it difficult to tell, but I'm unsure why the Pidcock joke would be an issue. If she apologized for it I could see it following around and being an issue, but if she doubled down and owns it and says "i wont apologize Im here to sort the country out not sit around being mates. if these lads had spend more time negotiating brexit properly instead of being mates maybe there'd be more foods in the shop you get me. the time for being mates is when the economys sorted mate"

It might have been a gaffe five years ago, not sure it is today.

the support of which star trek crew member would most boost jeremy corbyn's electoral chances at this point?

he's a prize bellend is Stewart, and I think if you were to scratch at his luvvie-Labour supporter "socialist" schtick for not too long, you'd find a reactionary Blue Labour/Tory wanker underneath.

Even four decades in LA can't take the tosser out of Mirfield Lad.

I mean we've established that Brexit is a very difficult clusterfuck for the LOTO, but yeah, let's hear a multi-millionaire actor's take on this, please. And quelle surprise! he's saying the same thing as Chuka.

He said: "Jeremy’s eye caught mine and he said, ‘Oh you’re looking very well,' and I made some light-hearted riposte along the lines of 'You can’t judge a book by its cover.'
“For some inexplicable reason, this annoyed him, and he shot back, ‘You know, Patrick, you could just have said thank you instead of making a joke out of it.' I couldn’t understand how he could take offence at such an utterly innocuous remark."

one of the silver linings of modern times is seeing ppl huff&stamp their feet about why ppl 'must go' and are 'unelectable' to absolutely no avail, everyone's red lines constantly being crossed, the total impotence of every ought. like when a kid realises if they call their parent's bluff & keep refusing to cooperate nothing happens, what seemed like a warning about inevitable doom is just hot air

Lmao @ that Stewart/Corbyn exchange. Did the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme start playing after that?

lol! innit?

was going to make a joke about Hodge-wins Law, but maybe too soon!

one of the silver linings of modern times is seeing ppl huff&stamp their feet about why ppl 'must go' and are 'unelectable' to absolutely no avail, everyone's red lines constantly being crossed, the total impotence of every ought. like when a kid realises if they call their parent's bluff & keep refusing to cooperate nothing happens, what seemed like a warning about inevitable doom is just hot air

I *think* this is whats happening too but I'm also conscious thats that is what i would like to happen and am I seeing what I want to see, and the worry that in fact it is having a background gradual attritional effect. But I am glad for this post as Ogmor generally seems to have a good radar!

look we have a lot of fun here in the ilxor dot com politics thread but i'm not gonna stand for any anti-patrick stewart nonsense itt, i'm sorry

deal wid it!

Ogmor's post is fine in isolation until you realise that the dude over there has also realised that and will end up killing us all.

Patrick Stewart today, DJ Smile tomorrow

lol, impressed someone on ILX remembers the big ledge DJ Smile!

Only lj thinks the Pidcock thing is a gaffe, whereas actually its a serious point. These Tories are our enemies, and what I liked about the remark is how it was anti-parliament. One of the best things about Corbyn is how you feel he is at times outside the noise of it and Pidcock channels that.

That kind of talk is minimum requirement for a Labour leader.

the pidcock thing was great but credit where credit's due, it was an old dennis skinner line iirc

Wow this is quite a read:

http://rap.wikia.com/wiki/DJ_Smile

hahaha holy shit

Actually I think its on DJ Smile Live in Liversedge

'DJ Smile in the place, punch a tory in the face , in the place, ecstasy', I'll see if I can find the vid

On that famous Dj Smile freestyle outside Hudds Job Centre, this very dour and humourless chap I went to school with called Danny Burns walks out past him at some point, it kind of adds to my lols!

yeah it is anti-parliament. corbyn's selflessness is political. the overemphasis on leadership is driven by investment/faith in narratives in which individuals are the actors, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that's not how most of politics works

extremely good #content

Austerity doesn’t work. pic.twitter.com/LvKSMvHetI

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 17, 2018

banger

jesus fucking christ the sooner brexit kills us all the better tbh

https://i.redd.it/xzlbl47m2qg11.png

lol that "War Plan Purple" account, every other post is some needling stroppy reply to what are on balance incredibly tame critiques

https://news.sky.com/story/ministers-plan-to-take-moral-high-ground-to-let-eu-migrants-stay-after-brexit-11477268

I’m not unhappy with the news, but I wonder how long until May has to wear a stab vest at PMQ.

I guess this will be a week of eye-opening leaks.

isn't leaking that you are taking the moral high ground, sort of .. pathetically low moral behaviour?

^^
stating the bleeding obv, like.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/20/right-to-buy-conservatives-tory-party-housing-association

Dawn Foster absolutely spot on about the limits of ransacking the state's social housing stocks and the Tory fear of "petri-dishes for Labour voters" is ultimately going to finish them off, as their dying base shrinks.

Labour making inroads into home-owning voters must be giving them sleepless nights as well.

United for Change is the *checks notes* 70th Centrist party launched this year:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/20/prospect-new-uk-party-grows-westminster-political-cracks-brexit

I just came back from Gothenburg, a new party sprung up there out of nowhere solely to protest their equivalent of Crossrail (they call themselves the Democrats, which felt very centrist party) and they're currently leading in the polls! Do better, dumb new UK parties.

how many more times will another damp squib of a Lamehouse Declaration be described with "epoch changing" type hyperbole in the frigging Graun? They do need to realise they look a bit of joke when they do this!

Chapter headings included, “evidence not ideology”; and “representative democracy not populism”.

"soma not spice"

"D:Ream not Drill"

monkey turds not monkey dust!

glad to see that last Centrist Party, started by that whizz kid that posted DVDs to ppl, really shook up the two party system!

Carbona Not Glue <----- would get my vote.

Was not was

Top 10 most viewed is more like a normal silly season august rn:

Jamie Oliver's jerk rice dish 'a mistake', says Jamaica-born chef
Francis Ford Coppola agrees Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves might be married
Summer weather is getting 'stuck' due to Arctic warming
'Disgrace and shame': Alan Moore points to Boris Johnson in Grenfell fire comic
Sticker protest on Antony Gormley's beach statues accused of 'trans hatred'
Live England v India: third Test, day three – live!
Prospect of a new UK party grows as Brexit shifts ground at Westminster
Adam Rowe's jobcentre joke crowned funniest of Edinburgh fringe
Labour condemns 'sickening' Lehman Brothers reunion party
Asia Argento accused of paying off young actor who says she sexually assaulted him

"Summer weather is getting 'stuck' due to Arctic warming" is the ringer among those silly season news souffles. I've been noticing for several years that weather patterns have become unusually persistent, which is especially noticeable when the patterns are extreme heat or cold.