the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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yeah it is anti-parliament. corbyn's selflessness is political. the overemphasis on leadership is driven by investment/faith in narratives in which individuals are the actors, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that's not how most of politics works

ogmor, Friday, 17 August 2018 09:07 (five years ago) link

extremely good #content

Austerity doesn’t work. pic.twitter.com/LvKSMvHetI

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 17, 2018

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 August 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

banger

||||||||, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link

jesus fucking christ the sooner brexit kills us all the better tbh

https://i.redd.it/xzlbl47m2qg11.png

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 18 August 2018 10:10 (five years ago) link

lol that "War Plan Purple" account, every other post is some needling stroppy reply to what are on balance incredibly tame critiques

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 August 2018 10:47 (five years ago) link

https://news.sky.com/story/ministers-plan-to-take-moral-high-ground-to-let-eu-migrants-stay-after-brexit-11477268

I’m not unhappy with the news, but I wonder how long until May has to wear a stab vest at PMQ.

I guess this will be a week of eye-opening leaks.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 20 August 2018 09:24 (five years ago) link

isn't leaking that you are taking the moral high ground, sort of .. pathetically low moral behaviour?

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 09:32 (five years ago) link

^^
stating the bleeding obv, like.

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 09:33 (five years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/20/right-to-buy-conservatives-tory-party-housing-association

Dawn Foster absolutely spot on about the limits of ransacking the state's social housing stocks and the Tory fear of "petri-dishes for Labour voters" is ultimately going to finish them off, as their dying base shrinks.

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link

Labour making inroads into home-owning voters must be giving them sleepless nights as well.

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 09:45 (five years ago) link

United for Change is the *checks notes* 70th Centrist party launched this year:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/20/prospect-new-uk-party-grows-westminster-political-cracks-brexit

xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 August 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link

I just came back from Gothenburg, a new party sprung up there out of nowhere solely to protest their equivalent of Crossrail (they call themselves the Democrats, which felt very centrist party) and they're currently leading in the polls! Do better, dumb new UK parties.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 20 August 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link

how many more times will another damp squib of a Lamehouse Declaration be described with "epoch changing" type hyperbole in the frigging Graun? They do need to realise they look a bit of joke when they do this!

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

Chapter headings included, “evidence not ideology”; and “representative democracy not populism”.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 20 August 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

"soma not spice"

Noodle Vague, Monday, 20 August 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

"D:Ream not Drill"

Noodle Vague, Monday, 20 August 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link

monkey turds not monkey dust!

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link

glad to see that last Centrist Party, started by that whizz kid that posted DVDs to ppl, really shook up the two party system!

calzino, Monday, 20 August 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

Carbona Not Glue <----- would get my vote.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Monday, 20 August 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

Was not was

Mark G, Monday, 20 August 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

Top 10 most viewed is more like a normal silly season august rn:

Jamie Oliver's jerk rice dish 'a mistake', says Jamaica-born chef
Francis Ford Coppola agrees Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves might be married
Summer weather is getting 'stuck' due to Arctic warming
'Disgrace and shame': Alan Moore points to Boris Johnson in Grenfell fire comic
Sticker protest on Antony Gormley's beach statues accused of 'trans hatred'
Live England v India: third Test, day three – live!
Prospect of a new UK party grows as Brexit shifts ground at Westminster
Adam Rowe's jobcentre joke crowned funniest of Edinburgh fringe
Labour condemns 'sickening' Lehman Brothers reunion party
Asia Argento accused of paying off young actor who says she sexually assaulted him

xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 August 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

"Summer weather is getting 'stuck' due to Arctic warming" is the ringer among those silly season news souffles. I've been noticing for several years that weather patterns have become unusually persistent, which is especially noticeable when the patterns are extreme heat or cold.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 20 August 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

The Tories generated £1.5million in membership fees in 2016 but that figure dropped 43 per cent to £835,000 in 2017, according to official statistics.

Meanwhile, the Tories were given £1.7million in 2017 in the form of bequests, compared to £301,000 in 2016.

if they are receiving more legacy cash from dead members than breathing mofos. Then they were definitely telling porkies when in March when they claimed to have 124000 members.

calzino, Thursday, 23 August 2018 07:44 (five years ago) link

Did they specify whether they were still breating though?

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link

I know it's obvious but there's something notably wicked about being able to leave money to a political party in your will - "I want to continue fucking with a world I no longer have a stake in".

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:27 (five years ago) link

by same token a govt would arguably not be able to make decisions with impact further than their term or you couldnt morally idk plant a tree

flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link

there's a difference of kind there somehow I think, no government I can remember has ever suffered from long-term thinking for one thing.

I guess i R's specifically political parties that seem unworthy objects of a legacy, but then they're unworthy full stop really.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:35 (five years ago) link

the argument for a 100% estate tax grows stronger every day

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:41 (five years ago) link

The Sun mocks and attacks Con defence secretary:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7079320/gavin-williamson-tractor-budget/

the pinefox, Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:34 (five years ago) link

I'm 100% certain that was the plot of an episode of Allo Allo. Maybe all of them.

Matt DC, Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link

"beach assault craft"

bloody hell, those Danes better get their defences on N Jutland sorted out, we got plans!

calzino, Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:37 (five years ago) link

there's a difference of kind there somehow I think, no government I can remember has ever suffered from long-term thinking for one thing.

I guess i R's specifically political parties that seem unworthy objects of a legacy, but then they're unworthy full stop really.

― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:35 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the argument for a 100% estate tax grows stronger every day

― ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 August 2018 08:41 (fifty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just ftr i agree with these

flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link

But sources say ex-furniture salesman Williamson’s failure to grapple with the detail and refusal to heed expert advice is proving disastrous.

Murdoch obv. doesn't like this guy much.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link

obv that moment when he offered Putin out on live tv wasn't an isolated "shit the bed" moment, but pretty much his f/t m.o.

calzino, Thursday, 23 August 2018 09:54 (five years ago) link

Not to mention the owl thing. I forgotten what it was exactly but I assume it's on this thread somewhere.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 10:05 (five years ago) link

lol at Raab's cake and eat it speech. can hear the hand wringing in brussels from over here.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 August 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/alex-salmond-reported-cops-over-13129661.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Scottish Government conducts investigation into the former First Minister over two sexual assualt allegations and finds sufficient evidence to pass the file to Police Scotland.

Salmons sues the Scottish Government for applying rules that weren't brought in until after he left office.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

arsehole

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

I think reading between the lines (of the long winded windbag's response here), the RT presenter might be a bit full of shit and completely guilty in this case.

calzino, Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

Technically correct, the *best* kind of correct

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 23 August 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

As they say in Glasgow, YASSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

It all snacks a bit of what happened with Keith O'Brien.

"How dare you say that about me, I'll sue! I would never do such a thing! Wait, who was it?"
<reads names>
"It's a fair cop."

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 24 August 2018 06:02 (five years ago) link

Today's going to be a fucking humdinger for fans of 'he's on our side so it doesn't matter' political Twitter.

Matt DC, Friday, 24 August 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link

Also for people with good jobs and secure housing to declare themselves ‘politically homeless’ which seems to me to be a tone-deaf way to express party political alienation when they’re passing dozens of rough sleepers in the street each day. Tactless.

suzy, Friday, 24 August 2018 08:44 (five years ago) link

I don't see how the LibDems don't represent these ppl, but these melts are very self-deluding creatures and seem more concerned with Corbyn blocking at all costs, rather than than any discernible ideological stance.

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 08:49 (five years ago) link

melts and self-deluding yes but even they recognise the uselessness of the libdems

mark s, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

aye, it would take some strong drugs to start believing the libdems are useful! But they are backing a 2nd ref and have a manifesto which probably wouldn't be radically different to whatever team Yvette Cooper was planning in '15.

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:35 (five years ago) link

Also for people with good jobs and secure housing to declare themselves ‘politically homeless’ which seems to me to be a tone-deaf way to express party political alienation when they’re passing dozens of rough sleepers in the street each day. Tactless.

― suzy, Friday, August 24, 2018 8:44 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM, I think the journo Solomon Hughes made a similar point recently. Fine to be a centrist melt, that's up to you, but stop whining on about how that hurts you to the bottom of your heart and there's no one who will ~understand your pain~

Neil S, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:38 (five years ago) link

And +1 Suzy's point that ppl like Lineker declaring themselves "politically homeless" in an era where no gov dept is counting how many homeless ppl are dying on the streets, is some next level vulgarity.

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link


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